New and Improved Water Ionizer Comparison Chart

As some of you might have noticed we have recently updated our water ionizer comparison chart. The new and improved Alkaline Water Plus Water Ionizer Comparison Chart includes many common questions about the various water ionizers that are regularly asked by water ionizer customers. This chart is made for YOU, to enable you to make a water ionizer choice that you are happy with. After all we are very motivated to ensure our customers are very happy. For one, we’re trying to help you, but because we pay your restocking fee, if you’re not happy with your water ionizer purchase it’s in our financial best interest as well to make sure you are satisfied with your water ionizer once you get it.

In this video I give a thorough and clear overview of the comparison chart. I clarify most if not all questions you might have concerning the water ionizer comparisons being made in each section of the chart. I also give insight into the key points that water ionizer customers would or should be looking for in any water ionizer they’re going to buy.

Before startiing the video I suggest you click this link to pop up a new window with the new and improved Alkaline Water Plus Water Ionizer Comparison Chart on it. http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons. You can then read the chart and follow along with the video.

Keep in mind that I don’t sell the Enagic water ionizer at Alkaline Water Plus. I do sell all other water ionizers featured on this chart. I only include the Enagic water ionizer for comparison purposes.

Some Key Things to Pay Attention to When Thinking About Getting a Water Ionizer are:

How Thoroughly is the Water Ionizer Ionizing the Water at Drinking Levels? [ORP at the Lower Levels]

ORP Per Unit of pH: ORP [antioxidant levels] in water is an important water ionizer comparison feature. At an 11 pH, though, the ORP is irrelevant, because it is too high of a pH to drink. Regardless of this fact, most water ionizer comparison tests are done at the highest settings for each water ionizer. Alkaline Water Plus believes that the ORP should be tested and compared at each level of pH, especially the lower levels. That way the various drinking levels of ionized water are checked for their ORP levels. Some water ionizers are great at getting a good ORP at their highest settings [such as the Enagic] and not at the lower [drinking level] pH settings.

Do the Water Ionizer’s Plates and Electrolysis Chamber Design DO the JOB?

Plate Design Quality: Many water ionizer companies brag about the size of their plates and/or number of electrodes in their water ionizer brand, when the real test of quality in a water ionizer is the ORP per unit of pH [as described above], and that has more to do with the efficient use of electricity than the plate size or quantity. It’s not particularly good to put too much electricity through your plates, however whenever you increase the size or mass that the electricity must go through, it requires more power to do it.

How Well Will the Water Ionizer Perform into the Future?

Plate Cleaning Quality: Very clean platinum coated plates are very important to any water ionizer design. What happens in a water ionizer is the hard minerals in the water want to stick to the plates in the alkaline side of the water cell. Continuous cleaning is the best design for a water ionizer, because it keeps any hard minerals off the electrodes. Platinum is necessary for efficient electrolysis. It catalyzes it [speeds it up]. If the plates are continuously cleaned, the platinum can then touch the water and do its job of catalyzing [speeding up and making more thorough] electrolysis.Mesh plate designs on a water ionizer is a newer, more efficient design, but beware of any water ionizer which does not have continuous cleaning [in which case the mesh would be a bad idea, because there would be more grooves for hard minerals to clog up.]

How Well will the Water Ionizer Clean the Water?

Overall Filtration Quality: With all of the junk in our US water today it is an important feature that every water ionizer offers pretty good to great filtration. Chlorine, for instance, is filtered out by every water ionizer I sell. Some water ionizers, however, offer better filtration than the others. A good example is the Jupiter Biostone Plus filter, which has over 9 layers of filtration with sophisticated [and expensive I might add] filter media which gets out tricky things, such as chloramine [a compound of chlorine plus amonia...very hard to filter out], fluoride [which reports are coming in droves of the health risks of consuming fluoride] and pharmaceuticals [

As you can see this chart is very comprehensive and thorough. Keep in mind that we, at Alkaline Water Plus, are REALLY testing each water ionizer. We are not a fake water ionizer review site. Each point on the new water ionizer comparison chart is something important for a water ionizer customer to know, especially the above four points, which I think are the qualities most important to look for in a water ionizer.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso

Team National Membership Logo
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2011 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE [692-5525]
Or call my [Cathie's] CELL: 314-452-9560
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!
For those of you who are not aware of this… we offer you free instant financing and no shipping, taxes or fees with your water ionizer purchase. Click the “Store” button, above.

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Tyent vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Apr 02 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

The Athena water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer are both very high quality alkaline water ionizers.  I have tested these two great water ionizers against each other many, many times. Just this past week I did some more extensive water ionizer comparison testing, and you can see the videos and brief summary of each water ionizer’s performance verses the other below.  When it comes to choosing the best water ionizer for you and your family, who best to do the looking and deciding than YOU?

In any case, both of these water ionizers are far superior in performance than many other water ionizers on the market.  I say this based on personal tests and evaluations of water ionizers for many years.

Here are some of the general features of each water ionizer:

Tyent Water Ionizer vs. Athena Water Ionizer

Tyent Water Ionizers:

7070T Water Ionizer – The 7070 Turbo is the water ionizer we are testing in the video, below.  It is a 7 plate water ionizer.

9090T Water Ionizer – The 9090 Tyent Turbo water ionizer is the next step up from the 7070T water ionizer.  The main difference is that it is a 9 plate water ionizer.  It will get slightly better readings because of that. You can see an earlier blog post comparing the two main Tyent water ionizers [7070 vs 9090] here: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/ .

9000T Water Ionizer – This is the under-sink version of the 9090T.  It will get very similar results as the 9090T.

Jupiter Water Ionizers:

Athena Water Ionizer – The Athena Water Ionizer is the top of the line water ionizer at the Jupiter company.  It has continuous cleaning (it cleans continuously, behind the scenes, with no wait time).  It also has mesh plates so it allows for more thoroughly ionized water (hence the great ORP ratings.) The Delphi water ionizer is essentially the same machine as the Athena water ionizer, save one filter port, but it is the under-sink version.

Melody/Isis Water Ionizer – The Melody/Isis water ionizer is the next step down from the Athena.  The cleaning system is very good, but it’s not continuous.  It reverses polarity [cleaning the plates thoroughly] with every use though, and this is done behind the scenes…so there is no wait time for the consumer.  It also gets pretty good ORP readings.  They aren’t as good as the Athena [because the plates are solid], but the pH and ORP are pretty impressive with the Melody/Isis water ionizer. Here’s an article that will demonstrate the quality that is typical of the Melody/Isis water ionizer: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/11/04/kyk-vs-jupiter-melody-water-ionizers

Venus Water Ionizer – This is the next step down.  It is a good machine and will get the range of pH.  However, the ORP readings are not as great as the Melody or Athena.

Below, I have included several videos and charts comparing the Athena Water Ionizer versus the Tyent 7070T Water Ionizer.  In all videos, I use a moderate flow rate for both water ionizers, between 1.5 and 2 liters per minute.  I try to eliminate the flow rate variable and keep both water ionizers at the same flow rate.

Test Number One

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.3 -737
Level 2 10.1 -770
Level 3 10.5 -787
Level 4 10.9 -800
Low Acid 3.1 582

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 8.5 173
Level 2 9.8 -260
Level 3 10.6 -755
Low Acid 2.5 500

Test Number Two

In this video, I slowed down the flow rate for both water ionizers.  I also assured that the flow rate for both the Athena Water Ionizer and the Tyent Water Ionizer were the same before starting the testing.

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 10.4 -768
Level 2 10.7 -785
Level 3 11.1 -803
Level 4 11.3 -820
Low Acid 2.6 395

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.8 20
Level 2 10.3 -69
Level 3 11.1 -811
Low Acid 2.3 380

Conclusion

The Athena Water Ionizer gets a really great ORP at all pH levels, even the lower level alkaline pHs!  The Tyent Water Ionizer doesn’t start to get good ORP until level three. The Tyent water ionizer gets a lower acid pH [2.3 vs. the Athena's 2.6 in St. Louis water]. The lower the acid water, the better the acidic water is for use as a germicidal cleaner [killing germs], although any pH lower than 4 will kill germs.

rH

There is another method to evaluate these test results.  We could measure the rH (relative hydrogen).  The formula is:

(ORP + 200)/30 + (2 x pH)

The closer the number is to zero the better.  The scale goes from 0 to 48.  If it is below 28 it is antioxidizing and if it is above 28 it is oxidizing.  The Athena water ionizer beats the Tyent water ionizer on this, but the Tyent water ionizer is still exceptional.

Other Related Blog Posts

I wanted to provide all blog posts that the Athena or Tyent water ionizers are compared in so you can see past tests and results. Here are the titles of each followed by a link:

New and Improved Water Ionizer Comparison Chart

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2011/08/03/water-ionizer-comparison-chart-new-and-improved/

Is the New Nine-Plate Water Ionizer an Improvement or Not?

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/

Athena vs Tyent Water Ionizers: More Testing

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/athena-vs-tyent-water-ionizers-more-testing/

Tyent Water Ionizer vs Athena : Tested @ Level 3 [with tap & reverse-osmosis-remineralized water]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/tyent-water-ionizer-vs-athena-water-ionizer-tested-level-3-with-tap-reverse-osmosis-remineralized-water/

Water Ionizer Comparisons: Tyent Turbo vs Athena Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/09/12/water-ionizer-comparisons-tyent-turbo-vs-athena-water-ionizers/

A Real Quick Look at the Major Strengths of the Tyent, KYK, Chanson, Melody, Athena, Enagic and Life Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/?p=58

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso

Team National Membership Logo
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2011 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE [692-5525]
Or call my [Cathie's] CELL: 314-452-9560
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!
For those of you who are not aware of this… we offer you free instant financing and no shipping, taxes or fees with your water ionizer purchase. Click the “Store” button, above.

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Dr. Robert O Young has a new version of the PH Miracle book available at Amazon or other book stores now.  This is a brief book review of both the new and old PH Miracle books.

First of all, I’d like to encourage you to buy this book (one or the other), as it is worthy of your attention. Do you need both books? In my opinion, no. They are very, very similar to each other. 

There are three main differences between the new and old versions of the PH Miracle books.

  1. The new PH Miracle book has a whole section about ionized water and the value of owning and using a water ionizer as part of his PH Miracle plan and advice. The old book emphasized the use of clean [filtered] water, but he at the time was encouraging people to purify the water [i.e., with reverse osmosis] and he later realized the error of over-purification along with the value of water ionization in his research with patients, and so changed that section of the book.
  2. The new PH Miracle book has more recipes.
  3. The price for the new version of the PH Miracle is over two times higher than the old version of the PH Miracle book.

I believe if you have access to the internet, you can get as much or more information about the value and uses of water ionizers on pages like my “Water Class” page, my “How to Use a Water Ionizer” page, or my “Water Ionizer Comparison” page. 

Dr. Robert O Young has done a great job [with both PH Miracle books] communicating about all kinds of foods and their effects on the body. He discusses the following topics in depth and in a way that is understandable to the lay-person:

  • Blood, and its relation to analyzing the health of a person and their diet.
  • Oils [saturated fats, trans fats, poly-unsaturated fats, etc.]…this is a very important topic.
  • Proteins [in particular vegetable proteins are explained and encouraged over meat proteins, also fresh, wild, cold-water fish are encouraged over other types of fish or meats]: these are discussed in scientific terms, but with emphasis on debunking some of the old myths about protein. I don’t think most people realize all of the nutritionally rich pH-friendly protein that’s available in vegetables. [We have all been told that we get our protein from meat, nuts, poultry and fish.] Dr. Young does a good job explaining all the protein potential of vegetables.] He also discusses topics such as nuts vs. seeds, giving the reader some new insights.
  • Carbohydrates are addressed as a matter of course, but while I agree whole-heartedly with discouraging sucrose and refined sugars and flour, Dr. Young also discourages fruit. His reasoning is geared toward alleviation of fungi in the body, and his reasoning is explained in the book, but not well developed in my opinion. 
  • Weight Loss is more specifically addressed in his PH Miracle for Weight Loss book, but I think most people who read and understand what Dr. Young has to offer in the regular PH Miracle book [old or new version] will be likely to have an easier time of losing weight.
  • Disease in general and specifically is of course discussed with attention to all of the topics above.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER!  Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year! 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Team National Membership Logo
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2011 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter! 

For those of you who are not aware of this… we offer you free instant financing  and no shipping, taxes or fees with your water ionizer purchase. Click the “Store” button, above.

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Is the Enagic $3800. Water Ionizer the best water ionizer there is?

No. There are many comparible water ionizers [such as the Jupiter Melody as you can see in the demonstrations in this article] and some that are better than the Enagic Kangen water [such as the Athena and Tyent Turbo as you can see in previous demonstrations], so No, Enagic is not the best there is. It’s a good, even great, water ionizer though, so I have no intention to down-grade it. However, I have tested and used these, and many other water ionizers, for years, and that’s why I simply know. I know the truth of the ionizers compared, and so when I hear stories from MLMers that the Enagic water ionizer is like no other or better than all others I will know there is a lie somewhere. I always ask, “in what way is the Enagic claimed to be better?” The answers I have heard are amazing to me, because they are based on hear-say only. One MLMer tells their downline, and they tell their downline, and they tell everyone they see. When asked for specifics, I’ll hear things like “better ORP” or “the ORP lasts longer”. I’ve actually tested and used these water ionizers, and though I would consider the Jupiter Melody a little bit less quality ORP than the Enagic, they are very close as you can see compared here.

Which water ioizer will hold its ORP the longest?

That is what I’m testing in today’s post. I have done a series of water ionizer comparisons which you can see below [the videos, charts and summaries for each set of tests]. I tested the ionized water immediately after pouring it as “Enagic-Melody-Comparison-1″. Then after an hour and 13 min. I tested all levels again [Enagic-Melody-Comparison-2]. Then continued to test at intervals and you can see for yourself that the ORP dropped at the same rate [I mean identical] for each water ionizer.

Another important piece of information you can learn from this post is …

How long will ionized water stay ionized?

This is a great question, and the answer is that the pH will last for a pretty long time [if sealed in a good container], but even sealed in the best container, the ORP will drop significantly after an hour at levels 1 and 2. It will drop significantly after 3 hours for levels 3 and 4. Therefore, my advice to anyone is to try to drink your ionized water fresh. The idea of storing it for days is fine if that’s all you can do, but I really, strongly advise you to just bite the bullet and buy your own water ionizer.

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-1
Test 1: Tested Immediately After Pouring
Timestamp: 5:48 PM 11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

10.1/-404

9.8/-339

Level 2pH/ORP

11.1/-738

10.4/-653

Level 3pH/ORP

11.4/-797

10.8/-753

Level 4pH/ORP

11.4/-801

11.0/-779

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-2
Test 2: Tested 1 hr. 13 min. After Pouring
Timestamp: 7:01 PM  11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.5/-191

9.6/-185

Level 2pH/ORP

11/-250

10.4/-190

Level 3pH/ORP

11.2/-701

10.8/-624

Level 4pH/ORP

11.3/-735

11.0/-665

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-3
Test 3: Tested 3 hr. 33 min. After Pouring
Timestamp: 9:21 PM   11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.5/-145

9.5/-137

Level 2pH/ORP

10.7/-156

10.3/-154

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-200

10.7/-161

Level 4pH/ORP

11.1/-200

10.9/-186

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-4
Test 4: Tested 15 hrs. After Pouring
Timestamp: 8:50 AM   11/18/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.7/-104

9.7/-96

Level 2pH/ORP

10.7/-106

10.3/-98

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-130

10.7/-104

Level 4pH/ORP

11.2/-139

10.9/-120

enagic-melody-after-24hrs
Test 5: Tested 24+ hrs. After Pouring
Timestamp: 8:17 PM   11/18/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.3/-80

9.5/-76

Level 2pH/ORP

10.6/-97

10.3/-70

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-102

10.7/-73

Level 4pH/ORP

11.1/-124

10.9/-90

 

How else do the Melody and Enagic compare? This is important to LOOK at, because you can literally buy 3 Melodies for the price of one Enagic! Melody water ionizers also have a lifetime warranty on parts [vs. Enagic's 5-year warranty], so take a look at the other comparisons. You can see that in many ways, the Melody is a better water ionizer than the Enagic, and in some ways the Enagic is better. But they are both great, reputable water ionizers from very good and trustworthy manufacturers.

  Melody LeveLukSD501

Price

$1,395.

$3,980

How many ways can you install it?

3 options: countertop with diverter from tap; undersink with kit; countertop with direct line

To tap with diverter only or you can buy an external flow control knob.

Warranty

Lifetime Warranty on all Parts! 5 year FULL labor & Lifetime Limited Labor. 

5 year
Parts & Labor

Satisfaction Guarantee

60 Day

None…3-Day Return if Unused…otherwise fees Apply

Shipping

Free

$18

Year Manuf. Established

1974

1976

Year Established in USA

1996

2004

Research Facility Location

Japan

Japan

Factory

Korea…Assembly-Line

Japan…Assembled by One Person (By Hand)

The manufacturer

28+ years …1986

7+ years …1988

Highly Certified…Including, ISO9001 & 14001, UL and CE

Highly Certified…Including, ISO9001 & 14001, UL and CE

Reno NV, New Fairfield CT, Edmonton Canada

Hermosa Beach, CA

Electrode Plate Information

5

7

Standard flat Plate

Standard flat Plate

Electroplating

Dipped

Emco Tech / Japan

Enagic / Japan

Cleaning System / frequency / convenience

Automatic Cleaning [No Waiting] When finished …each time used.

Simple Reverse Polarity / 30 seconds every 15 gals

Continuous cleaning: no cartridge needed

Must use cleaning cartridges 

Filtration Features

.1Micron / .01Micron

.1Micron

 

GAC, Super Carbon, with  Tourmaline

Carbon with Calcium Sulfite

 

Filter counter lets you know when to change filter

Must remember or estimate when filter needs changing.

 

$79 / $89

$145

Electrical Power

Transformer

Transformer

110w / .5amps

230w / 2.5amps

 
Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2009 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!
  

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Today I compared two middle-priced water ionizers, the KYK water ionizer vs Jupiter Melody water ionizer. The KYK  water ionizer is programmable, so I set it to the highest possible settings. Even so, the KYK water ionizer still did not compare as well as the Jupiter Melody water ionizer, but they were close.

You can see the videos, followed by the charts and commentaries here. The first two videos are when I compared the two water ionizers prior to customizing the programmable settings. The results were poor for the KYK, so I reprogrammed it to be set at the highest possible settings for each level. Then the last two videos show the reprogramming followed by the 2nd set of tests.

 

 

KYK at default settings

11/4/ KYK/Melody-1 KYK Melody
Level 1

8.6/+84

9.0/-330 Better

Level 2

8.9/+38

9.8/-745 Better

Level  3

9.6/-91

10.4/-783 Better

Level 4

10.4

10.9 Better [for emulsifying oils]

Acid

4.3

2.3 Better [for killing germs]

KYK at highest settings

11/4/ KYK/Melody-1a KYK Melody
Level 1

9.5/-76

10.0/-745 Far Better

Level 2

9.8/-170

10.3/-766 Far Better

Level  3

10.5/-778 Better [because the pH is more drinkable]

10.8/-803

Level 4

11.1 Tiny bit better [for emulsifying oils]

11.0

Acid

2.8

2.3 Better [for killing germs faster]

Here are my comments about today’s water ionizer comparisons:

  • I’m ignoring the first set of results, because the programming of the KYK Generation II was not at the highest settings. But with the 2nd set of tests, the Melody still did better.
  • The Melody’s results for levels 1 and 2 were far better than the KYK and they had almost perfect ionized water results.
  • At Level 3 the KYK did a little better than the Melody at level 3, because the pH was at a more drinkable level. However, if you compared the Level 3 of the KYK with Level 2 of the Melody, you can see the ORP is almost identical with the Melody’s pH even more drinkable. 
  • At Level 4 the difference of 1/10th of a pH point is neglegible, and both water ionizes’ high alkaline results were plenty high enough to emulsify oils.
  • The Melody had a slightly better low acidic pH, but both water ionizers’ low acid pH results were plenty low enough to kill germs.

This was part 5 of a series of water ionizer comparison tests that I have called Water Ionizer Face-Off. So far I have compared…

For now this is the last round of Alkaline Water Plus’s Water Ionizer Face-Off Competitions. I have gathered a lot of good information so far and that will have to do until I continue these Face-Off Competitions at some point after the holidays [or sooner if there seems to be a real need].

My overall rankings for the water ionizers compared based on the results in this 5-part Water Ionizer Face-Off Competition are:

Category #1: Best Water Ionizers [Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer, Tyent Turbo Water Ionizer, and Enagic LeveLuk SD 501 Kangen Water Ionizer]

Category #2: Better Water Ionizer [Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer]

Category #3: Good Water Ionizers [Chanson Miracle Water Ionizer and KYK Generation II Water Ionizer]

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2010 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE [1-888-692-5525]
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!
 

* Background… Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers: To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. You can’t always look at numbers and figure it out which one is the best ORP per unit of pH easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [rH closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH 

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

In my mind a water ionizer comparison website should be done by someone who isn’t biased, or who is as least biased as possible. Someone who has the capability and does sell a variety of brands is a good candidate. And, someone who knows what they’re talking about when it comes to all facets of water ionizers. Why? Because they don’t stand to profit by steering you away from any of the water ionizers they are comparing or reviewing.

One might think that an independent blog or review site that claimed or appeared to have nothing to gain from them sharing this information with you would be a better alternative. However, what I’ve found [and this is true...it's just the way it is] that no one does any kind of blog or review site for nothing. It just doesn’t happen. There is always an agenda, and it’s better for you if you know what their agenda is. Actually the person I trust the least is the one who I know is hiding something, or they’re acting like they’re doing all this work just out of the great goodness of their heart, so right up front I want to see if they clearly tell me who they are [especially if it appears they haven't divulged their agenda with their website].

Well what about website reviews…where the customer writes in how great they love their new ____ water ionizer? Again, this could all be staged, so I don’t completely trust reviews that are being placed on a website that is biased. Also, reviews in general are suspect.

Because I know a lot of the people doing the comparison sites [maybe not personally, I've seen their other websites and I know their agenda...most of them] I can see right through some of the trickery, and sometimes it’s just ignorance, however I’m sure the average person can’t possibly know whether or not to trust what any particular website claims.

I’ve gone through many water ionizer comparison and review sites, and have included all of the main ones here. The comments are just my honest impression of the trustworthiness or usefulness of the information on that website. If you feel I’ve not included one that’s a good one, please make a comment, below, and I’ll fix it. But I have done my best to select the main water ionizer comparison sites out there on the internet today and either expose them for who they are or just give you insight into their sites.

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons

This is my website. I would be amiss if I didn’t include my own water ionizer comparison site first. I really do try to give the straight facts [which I include on a huge chart], test all of these water ionizers myself and add extra useful insights into the better water ionizers out there.

http://www.ionizersreviewed.com

This is the trickiest water ionizer review site, owned & operated by Rob Gray. Rob is an affiliate of Tyent USA and KYK USA [used to be IonQuench], who are sister companies. Rob spends thousands of dollars every month to get his review site on the top advertized spot of Google. He pretends to be an independent review site, and hides the fact that he has something to gain by pushing Tyent and KYK [or before KYK, it was IonQuench]. His conclusions always favor Tyent first then KYK second. He focuses all of his comparisons on a few very old videos which I have analyzed and debunked on my “Compare Ionizers” page, above, long ago. The site is one of the four most contrived water ionizer comparison sites there are. He has no intention to give a real comparison of water ionizers, and it’s so devious the way he gives awards and prizes [for the benefit of unsuspecting customers who don't realize who he is] to brand new, untested water ionizers which are being sold by his affiliated companies. Then those companies turn around and make their claims of how they are obviously the best [based on the awards they received from Rob Gray's site]. It is a circle of deception…so avoid this site.

http://www.waterionizerreviews.org/category/compare

This is another one of the four most devious water ionizer review sites. It is owned by Earth Trade Water [the parent company to the Life Water Ionizer company]…who owns three [or maybe more] water ionizer review sites…all pretending to be independent. At the bottom of the site, they say they are Earth Trade Water, but most people don’t know that Earth Trade Water is the Life Ionizers Company. The phony comparisons are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerexpert.com/store/how-to-buy-ionizer

Here is the second water ionizer review site owned by Earth Trade Water [AKA… Life Ionizers]. The site is too biased and inaccurate [out-of-date] to be of much value. Just like the site, above, the phony comparisons in this site are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerreviews.org/category/compare

This is the third water ionizer review site which is owned by Earth Trade Water [the parent company to the Life Water Ionizer company]. The phony comparisons are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerauthority.com

This is a water ionizer store and water ionizer comparison site, similar to Alkaline Water Plus. The owner, Romi Sink, obviously prefers the Tyent water ionizer to all others, but she appears to do this for simple honest reasons [i.e., she likes them best]. She likes the appearance. She likes the features, plates and power. She likes the slim design. She has good things to say about all of the water ionizers she sells though. The only ionizers she won’t sell are the Life Ionizers [and I can totally understand that and agree with that]. Romi doesn’t test and compare publicly like I do, and she doesn’t get into the science of it [i.e., water filtration issues and comparing the quality of ionization itself in the water ionizers]. She focuses on size and wattage [things like that] in doing her comparisons. She doesn’t show all the Jupiter and Enagic certifications, and so a customer would get the idea looking at her site that the Tyent had the most certifications [when that’s not the case]. She also doesn’t give the most up-to-date facts about the Jupiter models. So it’s clear she does not prefer Jupiter. [Also Note: Customers who order water ionizers from Romi will not get as good of a trial period as they could get with Alkaline Water Plus.] However, as a review site, she is not devious and doesn’t try to trick you, so I consider her site to be a pretty good one.

http://www.healingwatermachines.com/information/ionizer_reviews.php

This is an older review site and isn’t up-to-date. It’s done by the same people who own Chanson USA. The site is too out of date to be of much use.

http://www.chansonalkalinewater.com/water_ionizers_reviews.php

This is an older review site and isn’t up-to-date. It’s done by the same people who own Chanson USA. The site is too out of date to be of much use.

http://www.ionizerscompared.com

This comparison site is clearly pushing the Jupiter water ionizers. They appear to only sell Jupiter [as a company], so they have that as their agenda. The information is not updated for the Tyent and Life companies. The site is too biased and inaccurate [out-of-date] to be of much value.

http://www.ionizers.org/othermodels.html

This is a comparison site that is owned by the US importers for Jupiter water ionizers. It is out of date and clearly pushing their own products.

There is a way to know…

If the website you are viewing is actually an objective third party or another water ionizer company deceptively promoting their own products. Check out who owns the website. Most of them are listed here in this article with their owners. If you find a new website that is claiming to be objective, you can email me or you can find out who owns a website yourself by searching for them on the various “who-is” websites put out by the website hosting companies. Just type “who-is” in the search box and pick a site. Then search for the owner of that url by copying & pasting the url into their who-is search box. Please look for a real person’s name. Often a website is registered through an LLC or a third party, that is not a good sign. It probably means they are hiding something. An objective reviewer in my eyes will be one who clearly identifies to you who they are. 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2009 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

5 Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Comparing the Jupiter Water Ionizers

Sep 10 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

Many people have requested a comparison of the Jupiter Orion, Aquarius, Athena, Melody and Venus water ionizers. So I’ve constructed this chart to help you see the similarities and differences between these great water ionizers.

  Athena Orion/ Aquarius Venus Melody
pH range in ST. Louis water 2.9  – 11 2.9 – 11 3.0 – 11 3.2 – 11
ORP at middle ranges of pH [drinking water] St. Louis -400 to -650 -400 to -650 -200 to -300 -300 to -450
Plate Cleaning Best Best Average compared to most water ionizers. Very good compared to most water ionizers
Do you have to wait for acid wash plate cleaning? No No Yes No
Filters Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Double filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Type of plates Mesh Mesh Solid smooth Solid electro-coated
Flow Control Knob Yes No Yes Yes
Can you hook direct to plumbing line? Yes Yes Yes Yes
Can you install under sink? Yes No Yes Yes
Warranty Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

  2195. 1895. 1195. 1495
Downpayment No pay-plan 495 200 300
Payments [@10 months] No pay-plan. 140 99.50 119.50

Here’s some direct links for you to get more information:

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2009 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Both the Athena Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer are two of my favorite water ionizers for many reasons.  But in this post I’m going to focus only on testing and comparing these two great water ionizers. I have compared them both in the past, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any water ionizer comparison testing. In the meantime my testing skills have gotten better as well as my overall knowledge, so when I had the opportunity to test these two great water ionizers up against each other today I took it.

The Athena and Melody Water Ionizer Thoroughly Tested in Every Way

To thoroughly compare the Melody water ionizer with the Athena water ionizer, I’ve done two complete sets of testing at every level: lowest acid level, plus levels 1, 2, 3, and 4. To see all of the testing, watch the following three water ionizer comparison videos, below, then read the charts and analysis that follows.

 

 

How to Compare Water Ionizer Testing Results:

There are two ways you can look at water ionizer comparisons. You can either just look at the numbers, and reason out which is the better water or you can apply a scientific formula to it to actually compare the two ionizers more scientifically. First I’m going to show you just how to look at the numbers and compare them. I’ll coach you through this:

Look at Level 3 for Test 1, below. See how the pH is 11 for both ionizers? Also notice that the ORP is hugely more negative for the Athena. That means that per level of pH the Athena is producing more ORP.

If you do further investigation you’ll see that the Athena is the better water ionizer for Levels 3 and 4 [the levels people usually drink at], while the Melody is better for Level 1. Level 2 is a draw.

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 1

Level Melody Athena
1 9.4/-383A little better 10.2/-422 
2 10.7/-460  10.4/-464

A little better

3 11/-497  11/-670

Far better

4 11.1/-463  11.1/-733

Far better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 2

Level Melody Athena
1 7.8/-263

Better

9.2/-260 
2 10.5/-478

Better

10.1/-373 
3 10.9/-610  10.9/-631

Better

4 11.1/-649  11.1/-706

Better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers:

To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. So many people would look at numbers, like the Test 1, Level 1 results, above, and say that 10.2/-422 was better. When in fact, the 9.4/-383 is really a little better. You just can’t look at those particular numbers and figure it out easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. 

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH

On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

Both water ionizers give you healthy water and perform well. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. The Athena is better at levels 3 and 4, which are the levels people mostly drink at, so the Athena is worth the extra money [in my opinion].

Normal tap water is the reverse, it’s oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing.  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

I have calculated the rH of all test results, above, and show them in the following chart. The smaller the number [closer to zero] the better.  Anything below an rH of 10 is a fantastic result. Actually anything under an rH of 20 is very good. Take a look at what happens with the Athena results right around Level 3. The rH makes a significant leap in value [almost double]. That’s why I like to drink my ionized water from the Athena at Level 3. At first I just intuitively liked the water best at that level, but after scientifically analyzing it I can see the rH score is so much better too.

Level Melody Athena
1:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

13.5

13

15.4

2:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

11.7

121

4.4

3:  1st Test    

2nd Test

10.1

8.1

6.3

7.4

4:  1st Test    

2nd Test

13.5

7.2

-2.2

5.3

Both ionizers perform well though. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. Normal tap water is oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing [including mountain spring water].  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2009 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote”
1-888-MY-ALKALINE  

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Water Ionizer Comparison Guide

Feb 27 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

In this post I have listed out some tips to help you compare water ionizers.

My water ionizer comparison page, http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons , is about the best tool you can use to help you buy the exact water ionizer for you.  In addition to looking at my water ionizer comparison page with this guide in mind, I also suggest you watch some comparison videos to see all of the water ionizers in action. This will help you see all those unspoken things about each water ionizer that may make a big difference to you. After all, a water ionizer is an appliance you will have for many years…you want to be happy that you got the best one for you.

Water Ionizer Comparison Guide

Here are some of the main points people look for in purchasing their water ionizer. Keep these points in mind while you’re studying mine or any water ionizer comparison page.

  • The first thing to look for is the ability of that water ionizer to get the best ORP [antioxidant quality] per unit of pH. In your drinking water levels of ionized water the ORP is significant. With the highest quality water ionizers you will get a greater negative ORP and more antioxidant protection for you.
  • Quality of plates is a very significant comparison point. Water ionizer plates should be made of pure titanium [no alloys] and coated with pure platinum [no alloys] and baked and/or cured properly.
    • Solid plates vs. mesh may be significant: Mesh and electro-coating [computerized peaks and valleys]  increases surface area without increasing plate size. This can get you a better pH and ORP. If mesh or electro-coating of platinum coating to increase the surface area of platinum without increasing the plate size] is used it could be an attractant to scaling unless the water cell itself is cleaned continually. A company using mesh plates should also have, as part of their design, the continual cleaning of their water cell or some other means [i.e. ionizer armor, EOS...] to ensure no scaling of plates occurs.
    • The number and size of the plates is significant only in the fact that each water ionizer needs to be designed well: to get a high pH and ORP at a flow rate that is convenient for customers to use and will endure many years [20 or so] of continual use without faultering. There are pros and cons to more and bigger plates.
      • Cons: More and bigger plates means you have to put more electricity through the plates. This could wear them down faster than the smaller more efficiently designed plates. You also may be stopped from pouring water sometimes [to prevent overheating]
      • Pros: More and bigger plates could get you a better pH and ORP [but not necessarily] and you could also get a better flow rate for pouring your water faster.
  • The internal self-cleaning of the water ionizer’s plates is important.
  • The highest pH and lowest ph [pH range] is another comparison point I like to look at.
  • The company itself [its integrity, stability, duration, organization] is another significant point
  • The price is a significant comparison point
  • The filtration [onboard filters] capability and quality is significant.
  • The warranties offered is significant.
  • The ease of use is a significant point.
  • The versatility [can it go under and/or over the counter] is a point that some customers will care about.
Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master
Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
Copyright © 2006 – 2009 Alkaline Water Plus
Call for a “Best Price Quote” 1-888-MY-ALKALINE
WE ARE OPEN FROM 8am TO 10pm CENTRAL TIME [7 DAYS PER WEEK!]
Get the Latest Water Ionizer Deals and News: Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! Follow AlkalinePlus on Twitter!

 

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

I recorded these videos a week ago when I was getting ready to bring my Melody water ionizer to California with me [to give to one of my sons]. This series is a tribute to this fantastic water ionizer , the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer, which my family and I have been enjoying for about the past year. I’ve decided to do one last series of comparison tests, because it may be a while before I get to test the Melody against the KYK, Athena and Tyent again. In this series, I’ve tested Level 3 and Level 4 of the Melody vs. Tyent water ionizers; the Melody vs. KYK water ionizers; and the Melody vs. Athena water ionizers. What’s amazing is how well the Melody has done in comparison with these other great water ionizers. The Melody @1495.00 is less expensive than the other three water ionizers AND has a lifetime warranty. It’s also made by one of the oldest & most trusted names in water ionizers…Jupiter! Also, no matter which is your personal choice of water ionizer …for a limited time, if you mention this blog post, I’ll give you $100.00 off your purchase price for a brand new Water Ionizer! Wow! What a bargain! Here are the videos:

 

Melody vs Tyent Water Ionizers 

Water Ionizer   PH   ORP   Comment  
Melody Level 3   10.8   -271    
Melody Level 4 10.9 -225 About Equal 

Too Close to Call  

Tyent Level 3   10.4   -303   A Little Better
Tyent Level 4   10.9   -239   About Equal 

Too Close to Call

 

 

 

Melody vs KYK Water Ionizers 

Water Ionizer

PH

ORP

Comment

Melody Level

10.4

-390

 

Melody Level 4

11

-410

A Little Better

Melody Low Acid 

3.4

 

A Little Better

KYK Level 3

10.0

-428

A Little Better

KYK Level 4

10.0 

-474 

 

KYK Low Acid

4.0 

   

 

Melody vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Water Ionizer  PH    ORP  Comment 
Melody Level 3  9.7    -366    A Little Better 
Melody Level 4  11  -328   
Melody Low Acid  3.1    A Little Better 
Athena Level 3  11  -358   
Athena Level 4  11.1  -360  A Little Better 
Athena Low Acid  3.9     

As you can see [above] the Melody tests right up there with the more expensive water ionizers. I would not hesitate to recommend a Melody water ionizer to anyone looking for a great water ionizer. My personal opinion is that the Melody is better than the Enagic, and if I had the equal option to have and use either one, I’d choose the Melody!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely, Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master 
http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
1-888-MY-ALKALINE

Post to Twitter Tweet This Post

No Comments

FREE EXPEDITED SHIPPING. Anywhere in the USA including Hawaii and Alaska! FREE USPS International Priority Shipping all other countries! [Applies to water ionizer sales only. To order a water ionizer, push the "Store" button, above. Mention this blog and say you want to take advantage of the free expedited shipping.]

Get Adobe Flash player
Discover How The Alkaline pH Diet Works & Download The Complete Alkaline Food Chart

Email Us: Support@alkaline-water-plus.info
Website Home: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com    
Copyright © 2006 - 2011 Alkaline Water Plus
1-314-452-9560 
 
The statements enclosed herein have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. The products mentioned on this site are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Information and statements made are for education purposes and are not intended to replace the advice of your family doctor.
 
Disclaimer: These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.