Tyent vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Apr 02 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

The Athena water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer are both very high quality alkaline water ionizers.  I have tested these two great water ionizers against each other many, many times. Just this past week I did some more extensive water ionizer comparison testing, and you can see the videos and brief summary of each water ionizer’s performance verses the other below.  When it comes to choosing the best water ionizer for you and your family, who best to do the looking and deciding than YOU?

In any case, both of these water ionizers are far superior in performance than many other water ionizers on the market.  I say this based on personal tests and evaluations of water ionizers for many years.

Here are some of the general features of each water ionizer:

Tyent Water Ionizer vs. Athena Water Ionizer

Tyent Water Ionizers:

7070T Water Ionizer – The 7070 Turbo is the water ionizer we are testing in the video, below.  It is a 7 plate water ionizer.

9090T Water Ionizer – The 9090 Tyent Turbo water ionizer is the next step up from the 7070T water ionizer.  The main difference is that it is a 9 plate water ionizer.  It will get slightly better readings because of that. You can see an earlier blog post comparing the two main Tyent water ionizers [7070 vs 9090] here: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/ .

9000T Water Ionizer – This is the under-sink version of the 9090T.  It will get very similar results as the 9090T.

Jupiter Water Ionizers:

Athena Water Ionizer – The Athena Water Ionizer is the top of the line water ionizer at the Jupiter company.  It has continuous cleaning (it cleans continuously, behind the scenes, with no wait time).  It also has mesh plates so it allows for more thoroughly ionized water (hence the great ORP ratings.) The Delphi water ionizer is essentially the same machine as the Athena water ionizer, save one filter port, but it is the under-sink version.

Melody/Isis Water Ionizer – The Melody/Isis water ionizer is the next step down from the Athena.  The cleaning system is very good, but it’s not continuous.  It reverses polarity [cleaning the plates thoroughly] with every use though, and this is done behind the scenes…so there is no wait time for the consumer.  It also gets pretty good ORP readings.  They aren’t as good as the Athena [because the plates are solid], but the pH and ORP are pretty impressive with the Melody/Isis water ionizer. Here’s an article that will demonstrate the quality that is typical of the Melody/Isis water ionizer: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/11/04/kyk-vs-jupiter-melody-water-ionizers

Venus Water Ionizer – This is the next step down.  It is a good machine and will get the range of pH.  However, the ORP readings are not as great as the Melody or Athena.

Below, I have included several videos and charts comparing the Athena Water Ionizer versus the Tyent 7070T Water Ionizer.  In all videos, I use a moderate flow rate for both water ionizers, between 1.5 and 2 liters per minute.  I try to eliminate the flow rate variable and keep both water ionizers at the same flow rate.

Test Number One

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.3 -737
Level 2 10.1 -770
Level 3 10.5 -787
Level 4 10.9 -800
Low Acid 3.1 582

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 8.5 173
Level 2 9.8 -260
Level 3 10.6 -755
Low Acid 2.5 500

Test Number Two

In this video, I slowed down the flow rate for both water ionizers.  I also assured that the flow rate for both the Athena Water Ionizer and the Tyent Water Ionizer were the same before starting the testing.

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 10.4 -768
Level 2 10.7 -785
Level 3 11.1 -803
Level 4 11.3 -820
Low Acid 2.6 395

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.8 20
Level 2 10.3 -69
Level 3 11.1 -811
Low Acid 2.3 380

Conclusion

The Athena Water Ionizer gets a really great ORP at all pH levels, even the lower level alkaline pHs!  The Tyent Water Ionizer doesn’t start to get good ORP until level three. The Tyent water ionizer gets a lower acid pH [2.3 vs. the Athena's 2.6 in St. Louis water]. The lower the acid water, the better the acidic water is for use as a germicidal cleaner [killing germs], although any pH lower than 4 will kill germs.

rH

There is another method to evaluate these test results.  We could measure the rH (relative hydrogen).  The formula is:

(ORP + 200)/30 + (2 x pH)

The closer the number is to zero the better.  The scale goes from 0 to 48.  If it is below 28 it is antioxidizing and if it is above 28 it is oxidizing.  The Athena water ionizer beats the Tyent water ionizer on this, but the Tyent water ionizer is still exceptional.

Other Related Blog Posts

I wanted to provide all blog posts that the Athena or Tyent water ionizers are compared in so you can see past tests and results. Here are the titles of each followed by a link:

New and Improved Water Ionizer Comparison Chart

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2011/08/03/water-ionizer-comparison-chart-new-and-improved/

Is the New Nine-Plate Water Ionizer an Improvement or Not?

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/

Athena vs Tyent Water Ionizers: More Testing

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/athena-vs-tyent-water-ionizers-more-testing/

Tyent Water Ionizer vs Athena : Tested @ Level 3 [with tap & reverse-osmosis-remineralized water]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/tyent-water-ionizer-vs-athena-water-ionizer-tested-level-3-with-tap-reverse-osmosis-remineralized-water/

Water Ionizer Comparisons: Tyent Turbo vs Athena Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/09/12/water-ionizer-comparisons-tyent-turbo-vs-athena-water-ionizers/

A Real Quick Look at the Major Strengths of the Tyent, KYK, Chanson, Melody, Athena, Enagic and Life Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/?p=58

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

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Both the Athena Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer are two of my favorite water ionizers for many reasons.  But in this post I’m going to focus only on testing and comparing these two great water ionizers. I have compared them both in the past, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any water ionizer comparison testing. In the meantime my testing skills have gotten better as well as my overall knowledge, so when I had the opportunity to test these two great water ionizers up against each other today I took it.

The Athena and Melody Water Ionizer Thoroughly Tested in Every Way

To thoroughly compare the Melody water ionizer with the Athena water ionizer, I’ve done two complete sets of testing at every level: lowest acid level, plus levels 1, 2, 3, and 4. To see all of the testing, watch the following three water ionizer comparison videos, below, then read the charts and analysis that follows.

 

 

How to Compare Water Ionizer Testing Results:

There are two ways you can look at water ionizer comparisons. You can either just look at the numbers, and reason out which is the better water or you can apply a scientific formula to it to actually compare the two ionizers more scientifically. First I’m going to show you just how to look at the numbers and compare them. I’ll coach you through this:

Look at Level 3 for Test 1, below. See how the pH is 11 for both ionizers? Also notice that the ORP is hugely more negative for the Athena. That means that per level of pH the Athena is producing more ORP.

If you do further investigation you’ll see that the Athena is the better water ionizer for Levels 3 and 4 [the levels people usually drink at], while the Melody is better for Level 1. Level 2 is a draw.

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 1

Level Melody Athena
1 9.4/-383A little better 10.2/-422 
2 10.7/-460  10.4/-464

A little better

3 11/-497  11/-670

Far better

4 11.1/-463  11.1/-733

Far better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 2

Level Melody Athena
1 7.8/-263

Better

9.2/-260 
2 10.5/-478

Better

10.1/-373 
3 10.9/-610  10.9/-631

Better

4 11.1/-649  11.1/-706

Better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers:

To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. So many people would look at numbers, like the Test 1, Level 1 results, above, and say that 10.2/-422 was better. When in fact, the 9.4/-383 is really a little better. You just can’t look at those particular numbers and figure it out easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. 

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH

On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

Both water ionizers give you healthy water and perform well. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. The Athena is better at levels 3 and 4, which are the levels people mostly drink at, so the Athena is worth the extra money [in my opinion].

Normal tap water is the reverse, it’s oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing.  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

I have calculated the rH of all test results, above, and show them in the following chart. The smaller the number [closer to zero] the better.  Anything below an rH of 10 is a fantastic result. Actually anything under an rH of 20 is very good. Take a look at what happens with the Athena results right around Level 3. The rH makes a significant leap in value [almost double]. That’s why I like to drink my ionized water from the Athena at Level 3. At first I just intuitively liked the water best at that level, but after scientifically analyzing it I can see the rH score is so much better too.

Level Melody Athena
1:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

13.5

13

15.4

2:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

11.7

121

4.4

3:  1st Test    

2nd Test

10.1

8.1

6.3

7.4

4:  1st Test    

2nd Test

13.5

7.2

-2.2

5.3

Both ionizers perform well though. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. Normal tap water is oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing [including mountain spring water].  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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Water Ionizer Demo: Melody & Tyent Ionizing Water for Over 12 Minutes

I heard that some Enagic dealers were claiming that every other water ionizer [except Enagic of course] overheats when you run the water ionizer for 10 minutes or longer. This video series debunks that. The first two parts demonstrate continuous flow for over 10 minutes for the Tyent 7070 water ionizer and the Jupiter Melody water ionizer. There is an intentional overlapping of certain parts so you can see that this flow was in fact continuous. As you can see, I’m testing the ionized water [both alkaline and acidic] throughout the videos. This is to ensure I’ve got correct comparisons between the Melody and Tyent water ionizers throughout

Therefore, there are two things happening in the videos. The first is that both water ionizers are being tested to see if they can run continuously for 10+ minutes and continue to be ionizing the water with a high pH and ORP throughout. They both can do this…so this debunks the Enagic statements that no other water ionizer [other than Enagic] can do this I want to make a strong point here that I DO NOT suggest to continuously flow water from your water ionizer without any breaks. However if there is a need to do this once in a while, this video series shows you that you can.

If you hear other fabricated stories from Enagic dealers like this one, let me know and I’ll be happy to test it. You can find my # and email on my website: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com

The other thing I’m testing with these videos is I’m doing a continual comparison of the Tyent and Melody throughout the entire 12-min. period [also the part 3 video does a final comparison about a minute after]. Usually when you see comparisons, you see one reading for each water ionizer. You don’t get the benefit of continual observation over an extended time. So I’m going to say this testing should be about the most valid comparison of two water ionizers for pH, ORP and rH of any testing you’ve ever seen.

Here’s the videos:

I hope this demonstration sets a new standard in water ionizer comparison testing!

How do the Jupiter Melody water ionizer and the Tyent 7070 water ionizer compare?

Close to the same!!! …as I knew they would! This is one more example of why I say “find the water ionizer and company you like and buy one!” These water ionizer manufacturers know how to manufacture great water ionizers!

Water Ionizer

Time

pH

ORP

rH

Tyent 7070

Water Ionizer

 

3min

6min

10+min

Acid Water

11.09

11.11

11.06

3.3

 

-340

-353

-426

17.51

17.22

14.59

Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer

3min

6min

10+min

Acid Water

11.21

11.23

11.1

 4.56

-315

-334

-400

18.59

17.99

15.53

This is so much better than what I had for my first 15 1/2 years of drinking ionized water…and I thought that water ionizer was a miracle worker!

Some things I think are good things to consider, other than the pH, ORP and rH are: the integrity of the company and manufacturer, how much you trust them & know about them, the internal cleaning systems…how well the water ionizer cleans the plates, the warranty, the BBB ratings, the certifications, how long the company has been around, how the water ionizer looks to you, and of course the price! Hope this helps!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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