Will the Melody and Tyent 7070 Water Ionizers Overheat after 10 Continuous Minutes of Producing Ionized Water?

I heard yesterday that some Enagic dealers were claiming that the Enagic LeveLuk SD 501 water ionizer was the only water ionizer that could pour ionized water continuously for over 10 minutes, non-stop. So this morning I tested this theory on the Melody and Tyent 7070 water ionizers [which I happened to have both right now hooked up to my sink [for other testing].

I had the two water ionizers flowing water for about 2 minutes prior to starting the video [while I was regulating their flow rates. Then I poured some samples of ionized water from each water ionizer to test...all before starting the video. So just add two minutes to the time of how long these water ionizers were continuously pouring water. Where I had to split the videos [in order to comply with You Tube's maximum video length guidelines] I overlapped the videos, so you can re-watch part of the video before the split on the part 2 video [so you see it was continuous.] The point is I’m trying to show some proof…so you don’t have to rely on trust entirely.

Here are the videos:


 

The results are:

  • The Melody and Tyent 7070 water ionizers were neck & neck in the pH/ORP/rH testing of the ionized water produced throughout the 12+ minutes of pouring;
  • The Tyent 7070 water ionizer slightly beat the Melody in rH for all testing done throughout. This means the Tyent’s pH was slightly less than the Melody while at the same time the Tyent’s ORP was slightly more negative than the Melody…producing a better rH. However the results were slightly different…and so I’d say they were almost the same [in the healthiness of the water].
  • The Melody continued to flow ionized water non-stop until I turned the water flow off. There was no slow-down, stop, drop in pH/ORP, overheating, or any indication of any problems at all.
  • The Tyent stopped itself and had a flashing light on the screen, however in the Tyent manual they did not state that this was for anything but to prevent accidental leaving your water ionizer on [let's say you leave it pouring and forget all about it] the water ionizer will turn itself off after about 10 min. of use. I could see no signs of overheating…it just stopped itself. When a min. later I turned it back on…it continued to give predictable ionized water at the levels it was producing earlier.

The bottom line is: this is another Enagic “story” [or I should say "lie"] that has been debunked. I don’t encourage you to all go pouring ionized water on and on, non-stop, for minutes and minutes. Why would you? But, the experiment showed it was possible to do none-the-less Hope this helps!

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Which is Better? The Chanson VS 70, The Tyent 7070 or the KYK Genesis 7 Plate? And Why?

Tyent 7070 Water Ionizer Silver      KYK Genesis Water Ionizer     Chanson VS 70 Faucet

Water Ionizers Pictured: The Tyent 7070, KYK Genesis 7 Plate & the The Chanson VS 70 

A customer came to me with a question today that was sure hard to answer! So, here’s my best stab at it.

I’ve tested the Tyent and KYK, so I know they both give really good ionized water…I’ve seen testing for the Chanson VS 70 which also looks good. These all look like great water ionizers…so which is best?

In this blog post I’ve provided information and my own analysis of the different strengths and features for each water ionizer. You will have to decide which water ionizer feature is most important to you and judge for yourself which water ionizer is best.  Based on the comparisons, below, you should be able to compare the features and strengths of these water ionizers with the features you think are most important to you — and make a decision that way. They’re all close and all HIGH QALITY, though, so I really don’t think you can go wrong with whichever one you decide. Hope this helps! 

Size: The Miracle and VS70 water ionizers are so small [if smaller is better to you the Miracle and VS 70 water ionizers would be the winners.] 

Cleaning:    ALL ABOUT EQUAL FOR CLEANING

One other thing that’s good to know with cleaning is, you can get an Ionizer Armor to go with any water ionizer to protect the inner cleanliness of your water ionizer so that helps to level the playing field with respect to self-cleaning.

KYK:  Automatic cleaning system – Does “acid-wash” cycle every 30 liters of use. Warns you when it’s washing. You need to continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle. Unit automatically stops water flow when wash is complete and resets it to Level 2.  Automatic draining system – drains water into the electrolysis chamber to enhance cleaning.

Tyent: Automatic acid wash every 5 – 10 min. of use. Warns you when it’s ready to wash. Automatically turns ionizer off when it’s ready for acid wash. You need to push button to start the acid wash and continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle.  

Chanson:  Cleaning frequency adjusted to your source water. Automatically occurs after you turn the machine off – never interrupting your water usage. Will automatically go into a flushing cycle each time you turn on your water ionizer.

 

Plates:   ALL CLOSE TO EQUAL FOR PLATES

KYK:  7 titanium plates slotted then dipped in expensive platinum and baked

Tyent: 7 large mesh plates. Boasts the largest mesh surface area [245 sq. in.] of all water ionizers. Plates are made of a strong titanium slotted mesh then dipped & baked 3 times for an extra thick platinum coating.

Chanson:  7 solid titanium plates are nano plated with platinum using a cutting edge technology which increases the surface area with peaks, valleys and grooves.

  

Filtration:    KYK WINS FOR FILTRATION!

KYK:  Dual filters with activated carbon and specialized media to filter out even more difficult contaminants like fluoride. [Filter Life = About 1600 Gallons]

Tyent:  Activated Carbon & ceramic plus an ACF Fibre filter. Removes chlorine, lead and other chemicals and adds back good minerals  [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons]

Chanson: Adjusts filter life according to your source water. [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons] These are Silver-adding Fiber Activated Carbon Filters (help with Lead reduction): remove lead ions from old pipes and silver-adding which is an anti-bacteria element.

 

Filter Change Indicator:     CHANSON WINS FOR FILTER CHANGE INDICATOR!

KYK: Automatically sensors — display when to change it.

Tyent: Voice [and LCD indicator] tells you when to change the filter.

Chanson: Filter Life is adjusted to source water, so you always know when it really needs to be changed. 

   

Price:    KYK WINS FOR PRICE! [...ALTHOUGH SO DOES THE MIRACLE]

KYK:  On sale now for $300. off [$1695.00] – Plus you receive over $200.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Tyent MMP 7070:  On sale now for $500. off [1995.00] Plus you receive over $600.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Chanson:  Miracle [countertop] $1650.00  &  VS-70 [under-sink] $2195.00

  

Power:     TURBO WINS FOR POWER!

KYK:  Variable amperage makes it possible to set your Genesis water ionizer for up to 76 pH/ORP levels. You can customize your pH and ORP to suite your source water. The power supply is SMPS [more advanced than transformers] to accommodate for the needs of the variable amperage.  [110V, 150W]

Tyent: PH adjustability and SMPS power allows for variable pH/ORP levels to accommodate for differences in source water. [110V, up to 235*W] Turbo option can be purchased for the highest wattages [235-285 W]

Chanson: Amperage adjusts automatically to keep alkaline levels consistent. [110V, 5W - 150W]

 

Water Flow Control:   KYK WINS FOR WATER FLOW CONTROL!

KYK:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization… and your water flow is displayed on the LCD monitor in liters/min.

Tyent:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization.

Chanson:  Flow automatically adjusted to 2.8 liters per minute

  

Installation:   CHANSON WINS FOR INSTALLATION!

KYK: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet and connectors if direct hook up to cold water line is preferred. There is no installation DVD that comes with the KYK. Computer chips and wires located on top of each filter makes the KYK filters very much harder to install and could be a weak point in the design. I believe that eventually a KYK water ionizer might stop working if the customer replaces their own filters every year and doesn’t have the technical expertise or manual dexterity to do it right. Here are pictures of the computer chips at the top of the KYK filters:

KYK-Filter-Chip-1KYK-Filter-Chip-2

KYK-Filter-Chip-3KYK-Filter-Chip-4

Tyent: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet [can also be hooked directly into the cold water line if desired]. People have had difficulty figuring out the technicalities of programming the Tyent to their source water, but have received excellent customer service and had their difficulties satisfied by the technical trouble-shooter at Tyent. There is a DVD for installing which is helpful — but it doesn’t come standard with every order. Make sure you request this DVD when ordering a Tyent.

Chanson:   Miracle [Chanson's 7-plate countertop model] comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet & VS 70 has its own beautiful faucet. The VS 70 will obviously be harder to install, because it’s an undersink model, however the Miracle is fairly easy. Chanson water ionizers come with installation CDs. You also get online videos you can watch ahead of time. The Chanson water ionizers get programmed to your source water hardness — so be ready with that information. You can get your water hardness level by calling the phone number on your water bill. There are videos that can guide you in installing the Chanson VS 70 and Miracle. Chanson also does offer excellent customer service to help you fine-tune your installations.

  

Warranty:  TYENT  WINS FOR WARRANTY!

KYK:  5 Year Parts & Labor

Tyent:  5 Years Parts & Labor [Can purchase 10-year upgrade]

Chanson:  5 Years Parts & Labor

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

 

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The Tyent 7070 water ionizer now comes in a Turbo, which is great for getting that lowest acid pH!

I’ve heard and tested [seen for myself] that the Tyent 7070 Turbo water ionizer gets a great high pH and ORP, and now I’ve tested and seen for myself that the Tyent Turbo gets a fantastic low acidity as well. Here’s the video:

Why Would You Want a Water Ionizer to have a Low Acid Output?

The reason you might want water ionizers to be able to create the lowest acidity possible is because you can use that lowest acid water for soaking infected [rashes or infections] body parts, as a mouth wash, watering plants and cleaning around the house. Not everyone cares about the lowest or highest settings a water ionizer can put out, because lots of people are mostly concerned with the main purpose of a water ionizer [which is for alkaline ionized drinking water]. But if you do care about this, here are the results. Plus it’s just nice to know.

Wow! Tyent Turbo 7070 Lowest Acid Level [St. Louis] = 3.04pH!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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Water Ionizer Demo: Melody & Tyent Ionizing Water for Over 12 Minutes

I heard that some Enagic dealers were claiming that every other water ionizer [except Enagic of course] overheats when you run the water ionizer for 10 minutes or longer. This video series debunks that. The first two parts demonstrate continuous flow for over 10 minutes for the Tyent 7070 water ionizer and the Jupiter Melody water ionizer. There is an intentional overlapping of certain parts so you can see that this flow was in fact continuous. As you can see, I’m testing the ionized water [both alkaline and acidic] throughout the videos. This is to ensure I’ve got correct comparisons between the Melody and Tyent water ionizers throughout

Therefore, there are two things happening in the videos. The first is that both water ionizers are being tested to see if they can run continuously for 10+ minutes and continue to be ionizing the water with a high pH and ORP throughout. They both can do this…so this debunks the Enagic statements that no other water ionizer [other than Enagic] can do this I want to make a strong point here that I DO NOT suggest to continuously flow water from your water ionizer without any breaks. However if there is a need to do this once in a while, this video series shows you that you can.

If you hear other fabricated stories from Enagic dealers like this one, let me know and I’ll be happy to test it. You can find my # and email on my website: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com

The other thing I’m testing with these videos is I’m doing a continual comparison of the Tyent and Melody throughout the entire 12-min. period [also the part 3 video does a final comparison about a minute after]. Usually when you see comparisons, you see one reading for each water ionizer. You don’t get the benefit of continual observation over an extended time. So I’m going to say this testing should be about the most valid comparison of two water ionizers for pH, ORP and rH of any testing you’ve ever seen.

Here’s the videos:

I hope this demonstration sets a new standard in water ionizer comparison testing!

How do the Jupiter Melody water ionizer and the Tyent 7070 water ionizer compare?

Close to the same!!! …as I knew they would! This is one more example of why I say “find the water ionizer and company you like and buy one!” These water ionizer manufacturers know how to manufacture great water ionizers!

Water Ionizer

Time

pH

ORP

rH

Tyent 7070

Water Ionizer

 

3min

6min

10+min

Acid Water

11.09

11.11

11.06

3.3

 

-340

-353

-426

17.51

17.22

14.59

Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer

3min

6min

10+min

Acid Water

11.21

11.23

11.1

 4.56

-315

-334

-400

18.59

17.99

15.53

This is so much better than what I had for my first 15 1/2 years of drinking ionized water…and I thought that water ionizer was a miracle worker!

Some things I think are good things to consider, other than the pH, ORP and rH are: the integrity of the company and manufacturer, how much you trust them & know about them, the internal cleaning systems…how well the water ionizer cleans the plates, the warranty, the BBB ratings, the certifications, how long the company has been around, how the water ionizer looks to you, and of course the price! Hope this helps!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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