A few weeks ago my father, who has a Jupiter Melody water ionizer, sold his house in South Carolina and moved to upstate New York to live with my sister. He, of course brought his water ionizer with him. He had been getting great, high pH, alkaline ionized water, along with the accompanying health benefits, for over a year and did not want to be without it.

I got a call from my sister shortly after the move, saying she wasn’t sure if the water ionizer was still working right, because there, in upstate New York, the highest setting of his water ionizer was only producing a pH of about 7.5-ish. I told her not to panic, it was probably her source water and not the water ionizer. But either issue is fixable.

Water Ionizers do not Always Work the Same in Every Location!

It is nice that I know how to fix just about any source-water issue, and in addition it’s good that the water ionizer has a lifetime warranty, so if it turns out to be something wrong with the water ionizer [rather than source water] it is covered. Whew!

I found that the pH of my sister’s source water [which is well-water, by the way] was about 4.5. That is a very low pH!

Her well water pH was over 100 times more acidic than neutral!

I thought at first perhaps the pH drops had gone bad. But, I did some research, and found that much of upstate New York well owners are likely to get a low pH like that in their source water. One reason is the high frequency of acid rain in the area, another factor is that fir trees add acidity to the groundwater and they are in the midst of a huge fir forest. One other thing that has a huge effect on the pH of well-water in an area is the type of soil and rock that the water filters through to reach bedrock, and in the Adirondacks [the main mountain range in upstate New York], the soil and minerals the water goes through is quite acidic. Here’s a pretty good article that explains more. http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/phdiagram.html The article even shows a map which demonstrates that most of the eastern states have a very low rain run-off water pH compared to the rest of the country.

Where my dad used to live, in South Carolina, he was on a regular municipal water supply. This makes a huge difference, as I explain, below in the section entitled “Life and Death Issues Regarding Your Water”, because when a municipality takes care of your water they buffer it [always] as one of their regulated safety measures.

The first thing we decided to do to fix my dad’s new source water was to do a “Comprehensive Well-Water Test”, which I offer for $29.95.

The test revealed that there were no toxicology issues, just pH issues! Great news!

So, knowing this, and knowing the geology of the region, I ordered a Remineralizer for them to put in-line and prior to their water ionizer. This should do the trick. What will happen is the acidic water, being acidic due to a lack of exposure to alkaline minerals to buffer it, will travel through the mineral-rich filter and buffer itself. It is possible that they may end up needing a second Remineralizer if the one filter doesn’t provide enough buffer. However, in my experience one Remineralizer is usually good enough.

I’m waiting for the Remineralizer to reach them, and will post the results when I find out how that worked. I predict that with the remineralizer they will once again be able to get about a nice 9.5 pH alkaline, ionized, drinking water.

Life and Death Issues Regarding Your Water

The pH of water is so important that it can actually be a matter of life and death for you, if you are a well owner, to learn this essential information, so read on…please.

Well Owners Must Know The Following Facts About Water!

Acidic water can be a matter of life and death for you to fix, and fix quick. Here’s an example of the life & death nature of the water’s pH. Changes in the pH of rain, due to pollution, has literally wiped out whole species of animals in ecosystems which are affected by acid rain. See these Government sites for more details about this very serious issue. http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/phdiagram.html , http://epa.gov/acidrain/effects/surface_water.html ,

Normally, rain is slightly acidic anyway, because as it falls through the sky it picks up acidic minerals [such as carbon or nitrogen], but in areas that are polluted there is extra carbon, nitrogen and even sulphur given off into the air [as emissions from fossil-fuel burning, etc.]. These, being acidic minerals, lower the pH of the rain as much as 100 times its normal, slightly acidic, pH! The effects are often catastrophic to animals, whose health is jeopardized when they drink acidic water from the streams, rivers and lakes in their habitat.

The effects of rain on the pH of groundwater vary from region to region based on the nearby cities, their altitude, location of their watershed, types of minerals which are found in the soil, types of trees growing in that region and rock in that region, etc.

Rain, going through limestone, will suffer a far less serious effect than going through coal or iron. What happens in limestone regions is that the limestone [mostly calcium] buffers the acid in the rain and the groundwater in that region will be found to be neutral or even slightly alkaline. That’s why in limestone regions, groundwater coming up through wells tends to be more alkaline than the water in nearby streams, rivers and lakes.

People are often shielded from the devastating effects of acidic water supplies, because their local water companies buffer their water supply for them. Well owners, on the other hand, are often not aware of the dangers of pH imbalances in their well, and so possibly do not buffer their well-water properly.

What are the dangers of acidic well-water or acidic groundwater?

The dangers are, the more acidic the water is, the more it tends to dissolve and absorb various minerals in the soil or rock it travels through. The water can travel through toxic heavy metals, such as lead, nitrites, pesticides, radioactive materials, or even pharmaceuticals on its way to a well.

In coal-mining regions, for instance, the water sifting down through the layers of coal tend to become dangerously toxic. According to these articles, http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/phdiagram.html , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_mine_drainage , water found running out of abandoned coal mines is very dangerous. It has been found to be up to one hundred-thousand times more acidic than neutral. This is quite deadly to any animals or people drinking it.

Changes in the pH of water can also alter, and make worse, the way the chemicals in the water effect you.

 According to this article, http://extension.usu.edu/files/publications/publication/NR_WQ_2005-19.pdf
“Ammonia is relatively harmless to fish in water that is neutral or acidic. However, as the water becomes more basic (the pH increases) ammonia becomes increasingly toxic.” Also, “Heavy metals such as cadmium, lead, and chromium dissolve more easily in more acidic water (lower pH). This is important because many heavy metals also become much more toxic when dissolved in water.”

So, what is a well owner to do?

There are usually plenty of good and inexpensive methods of fixing your source water if you are a well owner. It often is a much simpler job than you’d think. Water pH, for instance, is good for washing, showering, etc. if it’s slightly acidic. Therefore treating the whole house or well is often unnecessary if it is a simple pH problem. It is of utmost importance, though, for you to know what contaminants are coming into your tap by testing what’s in your water.

A well owner should definitely test their water periodically, and treat it either at the source or point of use if dangerous chemicals, such as arsenic, lead, nitrites, etc., are found in it. Point of use treatments are usually easiest and cheapest. It is ultimately up to you to decide.

These articles discusses what a well owner might expect and what they can do with their water, based on where they live in the country http://water.epa.gov/drink/info/well/index.cfm , http://www.wellowner2.org/2009/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=56

One point-of-use method is reverse osmosis. Often well owners filter their drinking water using reverse osmosis, because they have been told that this is the best filtration. Reverse osmosis seems like a good solution for getting the toxic minerals out of the water, however in many cases more simple, contaminant-specific, filters are easier, better and cheaper,

With reverse osmosis you are going to end up with drinking water that is too void of minerals [similar to rain water], and it will be slightly acidic [similar to rain as well], so when it travels through the terrain of your body it will pick up the minerals it finds there, which usually means it will leach minerals [calcium] from your bones and joints. This is not good. However, if you run your filtered reverse-osmosis water through an additional filter or two full of healthy minerals it will buffer the water first before entering your body. This would be a better solution. Then of course the next thing to do would be to put a water ionizer on the end of the line. And, that would be the best solution.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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New and Improved Water Ionizer Comparison Chart

As some of you might have noticed we have recently updated our water ionizer comparison chart. The new and improved Alkaline Water Plus Water Ionizer Comparison Chart includes many common questions about the various water ionizers that are regularly asked by water ionizer customers. This chart is made for YOU, to enable you to make a water ionizer choice that you are happy with. After all we are very motivated to ensure our customers are very happy. For one, we’re trying to help you, but because we pay your restocking fee, if you’re not happy with your water ionizer purchase it’s in our financial best interest as well to make sure you are satisfied with your water ionizer once you get it.

In this video I give a thorough and clear overview of the comparison chart. I clarify most if not all questions you might have concerning the water ionizer comparisons being made in each section of the chart. I also give insight into the key points that water ionizer customers would or should be looking for in any water ionizer they’re going to buy.

Before startiing the video I suggest you click this link to pop up a new window with the new and improved Alkaline Water Plus Water Ionizer Comparison Chart on it. http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons. You can then read the chart and follow along with the video.

 

Keep in mind that I don’t sell the Enagic water ionizer at Alkaline Water Plus. I do sell all other water ionizers featured on this chart. I only include the Enagic water ionizer for comparison purposes.

Some Key Things to Pay Attention to When Thinking About Getting a Water Ionizer are:

How Thoroughly is the Water Ionizer Ionizing the Water at Drinking Levels? [ORP at the Lower Levels]

ORP Per Unit of pH: ORP [antioxidant levels] in water is an important water ionizer comparison feature. At an 11 pH, though, the ORP is irrelevant, because it is too high of a pH to drink. Regardless of this fact, most water ionizer comparison tests are done at the highest settings for each water ionizer. Alkaline Water Plus believes that the ORP should be tested and compared at each level of pH, especially the lower levels. That way the various drinking levels of ionized water are checked for their ORP levels. Some water ionizers are great at getting a good ORP at their highest settings [such as the Enagic] and not at the lower [drinking level] pH settings.

Do the Water Ionizer’s Plates and Electrolysis Chamber Design DO the JOB?

Plate Design Quality: Many water ionizer companies brag about the size of their plates and/or number of electrodes in their water ionizer brand, when the real test of quality in a water ionizer is the ORP per unit of pH [as described above], and that has more to do with the efficient use of electricity than the plate size or quantity. It’s not particularly good to put too much electricity through your plates, however whenever you increase the size or mass that the electricity must go through, it requires more power to do it.

How Well Will the Water Ionizer Perform into the Future?

Plate Cleaning Quality: Very clean platinum coated plates are very important to any water ionizer design. What happens in a water ionizer is the hard minerals in the water want to stick to the plates in the alkaline side of the water cell. Continuous cleaning is the best design for a water ionizer, because it keeps any hard minerals off the electrodes. Platinum is necessary for efficient electrolysis. It catalyzes it [speeds it up]. If the plates are continuously cleaned, the platinum can then touch the water and do its job of catalyzing [speeding up and making more thorough] electrolysis.Mesh plate designs on a water ionizer is a newer, more efficient design, but beware of any water ionizer which does not have continuous cleaning [in which case the mesh would be a bad idea, because there would be more grooves for hard minerals to clog up.]

How Well will the Water Ionizer Clean the Water?

Overall Filtration Quality: With all of the junk in our US water today it is an important feature that every water ionizer offers pretty good to great filtration. Chlorine, for instance, is filtered out by every water ionizer I sell. Some water ionizers, however, offer better filtration than the others. A good example is the Jupiter Biostone Plus filter, which has over 9 layers of filtration with sophisticated [and expensive I might add] filter media which gets out tricky things, such as chloramine [a compound of chlorine plus amonia...very hard to filter out], fluoride [which reports are coming in droves of the health risks of consuming fluoride] and pharmaceuticals [

As you can see this chart is very comprehensive and thorough. Keep in mind that we, at Alkaline Water Plus, are REALLY testing each water ionizer. We are not a fake water ionizer review site. Each point on the new water ionizer comparison chart is something important for a water ionizer customer to know, especially the above four points, which I think are the qualities most important to look for in a water ionizer.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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Tyent vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Oct 20 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

The Athena water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer are both very high quality alkaline water ionizers.  I have tested these two great water ionizers against each other many, many times. Just this past week I did some more extensive water ionizer comparison testing, and you can see the videos and brief summary of each water ionizer’s performance verses the other below.  When it comes to choosing the best water ionizer for you and your family, who best to do the looking and deciding than YOU?

In any case, both of these water ionizers are far superior in performance than many other water ionizers on the market.  I say this based on personal tests and evaluations of water ionizers for many years.

Here are some of the general features of each water ionizer:

Tyent Water Ionizer vs. Athena Water Ionizer

 

Tyent Water Ionizers:

7070T Water Ionizer – The 7070 Turbo is the water ionizer we are testing in the video, below.  It is a 7 plate water ionizer.

9090T Water Ionizer – The 9090 Tyent Turbo water ionizer is the next step up from the 7070T water ionizer.  The main difference is that it is a 9 plate water ionizer.  It will get slightly better readings because of that. You can see an earlier blog post comparing the two main Tyent water ionizers [7070 vs 9090] here: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/ .  

9000T Water Ionizer – This is the under-sink version of the 9090T.  It will get very similar results as the 9090T.

Jupiter Water Ionizers:

Athena Water Ionizer – The Athena Water Ionizer is the top of the line water ionizer at the Jupiter company.  It has continuous cleaning (it cleans continuously, behind the scenes, with no wait time).  It also has mesh plates so it allows for more thoroughly ionized water (hence the great ORP ratings.) The Delphi water ionizer is essentially the same machine as the Athena water ionizer, save one filter port, but it is the under-sink version.

Melody/Isis Water Ionizer – The Melody/Isis water ionizer is the next step down from the Athena.  The cleaning system is very good, but it’s not continuous.  It reverses polarity [cleaning the plates thoroughly] with every use though, and this is done behind the scenes…so there is no wait time for the consumer.  It also gets pretty good ORP readings.  They aren’t as good as the Athena [because the plates are solid], but the pH and ORP are pretty impressive with the Melody/Isis water ionizer. Here’s an article that will demonstrate the quality that is typical of the Melody/Isis water ionizer: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/11/04/kyk-vs-jupiter-melody-water-ionizers

Venus Water Ionizer – This is the next step down.  It is a good machine and will get the range of pH.  However, the ORP readings are not as great as the Melody or Athena.

Below, I have included several videos and charts comparing the Athena Water Ionizer versus the Tyent 7070T Water Ionizer.  In all videos, I use a moderate flow rate for both water ionizers, between 1.5 and 2 liters per minute.  I try to eliminate the flow rate variable and keep both water ionizers at the same flow rate.

Test Number One

 

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.3 -737
Level 2 10.1 -770
Level 3 10.5 -787
Level 4 10.9 -800
Low Acid 3.1 582

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 8.5 173
Level 2 9.8 -260
Level 3 10.6 -755
Low Acid 2.5 500

Test Number Two

In this video, I slowed down the flow rate for both water ionizers.  I also assured that the flow rate for both the Athena Water Ionizer and the Tyent Water Ionizer were the same before starting the testing.

Athena

pH

ORP

Level 1 10.4 -768
Level 2 10.7 -785
Level 3 11.1 -803
Level 4 11.3 -820
Low Acid 2.6 395

Tyent

pH

ORP

Level 1 9.8 20
Level 2 10.3 -69
Level 3 11.1 -811
Low Acid 2.3 380

Conclusion

The Athena Water Ionizer gets a really great ORP at all pH levels, even the lower level alkaline pHs!  The Tyent Water Ionizer doesn’t start to get good ORP until level three. The Tyent water ionizer gets a lower acid pH [2.3 vs. the Athena's 2.6 in St. Louis water]. The lower the acid water, the better the acidic water is for use as a germicidal cleaner [killing germs], although any pH lower than 4 will kill germs.

rH

There is another method to evaluate these test results.  We could measure the rH (relative hydrogen).  The formula is:

(ORP + 200)/30 + (2 x pH)

The closer the number is to zero the better.  The scale goes from 0 to 48.  If it is below 28 it is antioxidizing and if it is above 28 it is oxidizing.  The Athena water ionizer beats the Tyent water ionizer on this, but the Tyent water ionizer is still exceptional.

Other Related Blog Posts

I wanted to provide all blog posts that the Athena or Tyent water ionizers are compared in so you can see past tests and results. Here are the titles of each followed by a link:

New and Improved Water Ionizer Comparison Chart

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2011/08/03/water-ionizer-comparison-chart-new-and-improved/

Is the New Nine-Plate Water Ionizer an Improvement or Not?

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/12/18/is-the-new-nine-plate-water-ionizer-an-improvement-or-not/

Athena vs Tyent Water Ionizers: More Testing

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/athena-vs-tyent-water-ionizers-more-testing/

Tyent Water Ionizer vs Athena : Tested @ Level 3 [with tap & reverse-osmosis-remineralized water]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/10/22/tyent-water-ionizer-vs-athena-water-ionizer-tested-level-3-with-tap-reverse-osmosis-remineralized-water/

Water Ionizer Comparisons: Tyent Turbo vs Athena Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/09/12/water-ionizer-comparisons-tyent-turbo-vs-athena-water-ionizers/

A Real Quick Look at the Major Strengths of the Tyent, KYK, Chanson, Melody, Athena, Enagic and Life Water Ionizers

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/?p=58

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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I get many questions about water quality and filtration, and where there is uncertainty about a person’s water quality I often recommend using one of my test kits. The main reasons for uncertainty about water quality are: 1) a person has their own well and they don’t regularly test all of the elements of water quality for their well-water, and 2) a person lives in an older home or community and there are old, questionable, pipes bringing the water to their tap. I have a company policy to pay for this test kit for the customer, by the way, provided they buy their water ionizer from me.

Prior to writing this blog post, I hadn’t actually taken apart and done one of our “Water Test Kits” before, and I was curious as to how useful and accurate they really are. Plus I wanted to know how easy or hard the test kits were to use.

The city water test kit tests for bacteria, lead, chlorine, pesticides, nitrates/nitrites, hardness, and pH.

Here is a video of Susan demonstrating the use of the test kit.

The Results

Lead negative
Bacteria negative
Chlorine 1ppm
Pesticides negative
Nitrates/Nitrites .5ppm
Nitrite .2ppm
Hardness 120ppm
pH 10

How to Interperet Results

Bacteria:

Bacteria is the test recommended to be done first. The reason is that it takes 48 hours to get your results from this test. I imagine the time delay is to allow bacteria to grow [if there are any]. This test is self explanatory and easy to do.

Why test for bacteria? There are various different kinds of bacteria that can be in water, and they all can make you sick. If you have municipal water, the water company regulates these things daily, so there shouldn’t be much worry, but if you have well water or spring water, you might want to regularly test for bacteria yourself to be on the safe side.

Lead:

Per the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency), the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) for lead is zero. The reason for this is that any lead is poisonous to people. Drinking water with lead in it can cause children to delay in physical or mental developement and can also cause learning disabilities. In adults, lead can cause kidney problems and high blood pressure. In older buildings, lead can be a concern even when the city tests show no lead in the water leaving the municipal plant. If there was any lead sodder used anywhere along the pipeline, it could potentially leach into the water passing through that line. I have a customer who lives in an older building in the city of St. Louis, and I used her water for this test. It’s very nice to see her water tested negative.

Lead is a problem in the city sometimes due to old pipes giving off lead. I got this water from a very old builing, so I did want to see if that would be a problem.

This test was very simple to do. There is some wait time so be prepared, but other than that not too complicated.

Chlorine:

Per the EPA the MCL of chlorine in drinking water is 4mg/L. This can cause eye and nose irritation and stomach discomfort. Our test was well below that. We tested at 1ppm(parts per million) which converts to .99mg/L.

This test was very simple and easy to do. You just immerse the test strip in the water for a brief period of time and wait a few seconds and compare the color to the color chart given in the instructions.

Pesticides:

There are many many different kinds of pesticides all for various pests that you may find. Because there are so many different pesticides, there are many different side effects. Some of them irritate the skin and eyes, some of them effect the endocrine system, etc. Obviously we don’t want this in our water. This test should be negative.

This test was done in the same way as the Lead test. Wasn’t difficult at all, just a little wait time.

Nitrates/Nitrites:

These come from runoff of fertilizers, or leaking septic tanks(which can be a problem in the city). It is also a natural deposit. Per the EPA, the MCL of Nitrates is 10mg/L and for Nitrites is 1mg/L. So our test was acceptable in the St Louis city water. Apparently if infants drink water that contains more than the MCL, they can become very ill.

This test was done in the same way as the chlorine test. It was very simple and easy to do.

Hardness:

Water is considered soft or hard according to the ppm or gpg of calcium and magnesium in the water. Most references report the following: •Soft: Below 17 ppm [or 0-1 gpg] •Medium: 18 – 75 ppm [or 1 - 4 gpg] •Medium Hard: 76 – 150 ppm [or 4 - 8 gpg] •Hard: 151 – 200 ppm [or 7 – 11 gpg] •Very Hard: Over 200 ppm [or over 11 gpg **Very, Very Hard: Over 300 ppm [Note: can go as hard as 500 or more ppm]. Above 200ppm, I would suggest doing prefiltration if you have a water ionizer.

Surprisingly enough this test used a simple test strip and took hardly any time at all. It was done just like the Chlorine and Nitrate tests.

pH:

We have talked about this many times. A pH of 8.5 to 10 is desirable for drinking. Above that might be too alkaline. You wouldn’t want to drink below 7pH.

This test was very easy to administer.

Overall

This city water test was pretty simple. Do ensure that you read the instructions. It doesn’t take too much time. You can do almost all of the tests in a 15-20 min time slot (and then an extra 48 hours before reading the results of the bacteria test).

References:

www.epa.gov

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
Blog-Master
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I often get questions asking if heating or cooling ionized water from one of our water ionizers will change it.  I have tested the effects of heating & cooling ionized water many times before, but recently have discovered the importance of protecting the ionized water from the air. Exposing ionized water to the air causes it to lose its antioxidant valur at a much faster pace. Today I’m trying to find out more about what happens when you heat or cool ionized water.

Because I already know from many tests done in the past that exposing ionized water to air decreases the ORP, I did my best to eliminate the air variable in order to have a more accurate test.

Note: PH and ORP meters cannot take such extremes in temperature, so I had to let the containers holding the frozen and boiling water sit in room temperature long enough to be able to test it.

Results

pH Before ORP Before pH After ORP After Temp
Microwave 10.7 -764 10.4 -755 108
Boil 10.7 -735 9.9 103 212
Fridge 10.6 -755 10.5 -385 45
Freeze 10.4 -755 10 -460 32
Cup of ice water 11 -785 11 -770 32

Conclusions

  • Boiling ionized water does significantly decrease its health value. It will take the negative ORP [anti-oxidant value] out of the water and will even reduce the pH somewhat. [However, even after being boiled, ionized water is still far better than tap water, un-ionized.]
  • Freezing ionized water does not, by itself, reduce its health value very much. As long as you take precautions to not expose the ionized water to air, your frozen ionized water should be good.
  • Warming your ionized water does not seem to reduce the health value much [unless you bring it to a high temperature]. Note: In our experiment, we brought it up to 108 degrees.
  • Adding ice [especially if the ice was made of ionized water] doesn’t decrease its health value.

Suggestions Based on the Test Results

After evaluating the results of these tests, I can safely say that it’s fine to warm your ionized water slightly or to add ice to it. Boiling your ionized water for drinking it is for the most part not suggested.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
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Best Bottles to Store Ionized Water

Aug 19 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

Ionized water is best fresh. But, obviously sometimes you have to store ionized water for some period of time. It would be impractical to bring your ionizer to work with you! I often get questions about what is the best way to store alkaline ionized water, so I have taken the liberty to test a variety of bottles to see which one stores ionized water the best.

By the way, the best way to fill the bottles of ionized water is to over-fill them and carefully cap them in such a way as to try to get no air bubble.

When you do this it will maintain the pH and ORP much better.

ORP: Oxidation Reduction Potential [the antioxidant value of the ionized water] tends to degrade with exposure to air of ionized water. ORP is one of the main qualities of ionized water that makes it so healthy.  A low negative ORP is what we are looking for. This will give you lots of antioxidants. The lower the better.

PH:  A good drinking pH is anywhere from 8.5 to 10. The pH of ionized water tends to keep [store] much longer than the ORP.  PH will reduce with exposure to air but not anywhere near the degree that ORP will.

Storing for 1-2 hours

In these videos, I test the ionized water before filling the bottles and then fill them with as little air bubble as possible. Then I wait for a couple hours and test again.

Before

pH

ORP

Ionized Water 10.4 -750

After

Mason Jar 10.2 -750
Glass Bottle 10.5 -715
White Plastic Bottle 10.6 -605
Fiji Bottle 10.6 -545
Evian Bottle 10.7 -590
Dasani Bottle 10.8 -480
Aquafina Bottle 10.8 -455
Little Plastic Jug 10.8 -440

As you can see, the mason jar was almost exactly the same ORP and pH as the original ionized water before it was stored! This is THE best way to store ionized water. One key thing to do is to ensure that there is no air bubble in the container.

Storing for One Day

Here are some results from further [off-video] testing I did with storing ionized water. I let some containers sit for one day with ionized water. These are some, but not all, of the containers shown in the video above.

Before

pH

ORP

All 10.5 -750

After

White Plastic Bottle 10.6 -365
Little Plastic Jug 10.8 -200
Dasani Bottle 10.7 -309
Glass Bottle 10.6 -425
Mason Jar 10.4 -690

As you can see, the mason jar wins again, by a long shot. The glass bottle is a close second.

So if you have to store your ionized water while at work or for any other reason, consider using a mason jar. This is a good way to keep the ionized water as “fresh” as possible.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

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Sincerely,
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Today Susan, at Alkaline Water Plus, is going to compare pH drops with the results of pH tested with a calibrated pH meter. First of all, we want to ensure that the pH drops test accurately. Then secondly, since we sell two different sizes of the pH drops we are curious if both sizes are equally accurate.

Hypothesis

It is also predicted that the pH drops will be pretty accurate in their ability to show the pH of various levels of ionized water. The smaller bottle is predicted to be slightly more accurate than the larger bottle, because the larger bottle is less popular and probably sits on the shelf longer…therefore is not as fresh.
 
 We will see what happens.
 

Conclusion

So, it looks like the smaller bottle was more accurate than the larger bottle of pH reagent drops. However, the larger bottle was not too far off. I noticed while doing this test that the color chart that comes with the bigger bottle was slightly different than the color chart that comes with the smaller bottle. The color that the water turned was about the same color with both bottles of pH reagent drops. It is misleading though the slight color differences in the charts. The color chart for the smaller bottle of pH reagent drops is definitely more accurate.

Chemical makeup of pH Reagent Drops:

Ethanol- This is another name for alcohol. It is found in alcoholic beverages and is used as a fuel and also as a solvent. In this case, pH reagent drops, it is used as a solvent.

Phenolphtalein- This is a chemical compound made up of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. It does not dissolve in water but will dissolve in alcohols. This compound when mixed in strongly acidic solutions turns orange. When it is mixed in acid or near neutral solutions it is colorless. When mixed in basic solutions it turns pink or fuchsia. When it is mixed in strongly basic solutions it is colorless.

Methyl Red- This is an indicator dye that turns red in acidic solutions. It is red below pH 4.4, yellow in pH above 6.2, and orange between 4.4 and 6.2 pH.

Bromothymol Blue- This is another indicator for weak acids and bases. It is yellow below 6.0 pH, blue above 7.6 pH, and green between 6.0 and 7.6 pH.

Note: Do not drink this solution or get in your eyes or on your skin. This solution is combustible so keep away from heat, flames, or fire.

pH Testing Paper

As you can deduce, the mixture of these three color indicators which change with the different pH levels is what causes the pH reagent drops to have their different colors. That is what the handy color chart that comes with the pH reagent drops is for, so you don’t have to figure out what color it should be based on the color indicators used.

The pH testing paper, on the other hand, probably only uses one of the above chemical pH indicators. My best guess is that it uses bromothymol blue because it goes from yellow to shades of green to shades of blue. The reason why you wouldn’t use the pH test paper for testing your water is because it only tests from a pH of 5.5 to 8.0. So above and below those pH levels it would not be able to accurately test the water. This is great, however, for testing saliva because it’s right in the range that the saliva should be. It also allows for a more precise color chart.

pH Meter

Some people wonder if they should get a pH meter or just rely on the drops. PH meters are usually as reliable as pH reagent drops, but they are expensive and require extra work to keep them calibrated and clean. As long as the pH drops are stored in room temperature and out of direct sunlight, they should be accurate for at least 2 years.

Definitions

Reagent:

-a substance or compound that is added to a system in order to bring about a chemical reaction or is added to see if a reaction occurs-wikipedia

-a substance that, because of the reactions it causes, is used in analysis and synthesis-dictionary.com

This video is included to demonstrate how cabbage juice can be used as a pH indicator. This is a great home-experiment that anyone could do.

pH:

-This stands for potential Hydrogen. This is the ability to attract hydrogen ions. Acidic molecules have a low ability to attract hydrogen ions and alkaline has a high ability to attract hydrogen ions. But in laments terms it is the measurement of acid or alkaline. Zero is very acidic, seven is neutral, and fourteen is very alkaline. Also this system of measurement is logarithmic, meaning that a pH of 6 is 10 times more acidic than 7(neutral) and a pH of 8 is 10 times more alkaline than 7.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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Today we are doing a taste test between the Enagic SD501 water ionizer, the Athena water ionizer, the Tyent 7070 Turbo water ionizer and St Louis tap water.

We are testing with three different people.  They will be blind folded so as to eliminate any bias each one might have toward a particular water source. 

We are going to show you each video as we go along for the sake of full disclosure and so that you can make your own conclusions from observing yourself.  Keep in mind there are modifications to and conclusions made from this experiment as we go along.

In each video we are rating the taste of the water on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the worst tasting and 10 being the best tasting.

 

Water Source

1st Taste Rating

2nd Taste Rating

3rd Taste Rating

Avg

Tyent

7 9.2   8.1

Tap

9 8 9.5 8.8

Enagic

6 7   6.5

Athena

8 9.5   8.75

The Enagic did not test very well in the taste test. However I realized that I had not checked the pH of any of the water samples.  So after this video we tested the pH of all of the ionized water.

Modifications Needed

After this initial testing I checked the pH of all the water we were tasting.  Here’s a table of what the pH was after the video for each water source.  After seeing the higher pH for the Enagic, I concluded that this might have effected the results of the Enagic water ionizer’s taste test.

Water Source

pH

St Louis Tap

9.7

Athena

10.9

Tyent

10.7

Enagic

11.3

In the following videos I attempt to control the pH variable. After redoing the taste testing with all water ionizers at the same pH level (see chart below) the Enagic still did not do as well as the other water ionizers.

For the sake of condensing the information contained in these videos, I am only putting the average score from each taste tester for each water source.

Water Source

pH

Taste Test Susan’s Ratings

Taste Test Chrissy’s Ratings

Taste Test Cathie’s Ratings

Average Ratings

Tap

9.9 9.75 8.2 6.75 8.23

Enagic

10.9 7.5 7.75 7 7.42

Athena

10.9 9.2 8.2 8.75 8.72

Tyent

10.9 8.5 8.2 7.5 8.07

Final Conclusion

The results are actually quite amusing.  They are not very decisive and even within one taste test on one person, it seems to not have any real pattern.  But, I guess that’s what you get when you are doing an experiment based on someone’s opinion. 

It looks like the Athena wins out with St Louis tap water as a close second.

You can watch the videos yourself and conclude as you wish.

Note: We are lucky in St Louis to have such good tasting tap water.  That may have influenced the results of these tests.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER! Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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The Tyent and Enagic water ionizers’ flow control issues can be a problem, but they’re not so hard to solve.

Several water ionizers have flow-control issues [e.g., Tyent, Jupiter Orion, KYK Generation II, & Genesis Platinum], but the Tyent and Enagic are being featured in this article. The PH and ORP of your ionized water are obviously important to you when you are drinking that ionized water. For several reasons it is very desirable to be able to fine-tune the water flow rate of your water ionizer. Why?

  • Some water ionizers will not give you desirable water flow rates if hooked directly to your plumbing, so they are typically thought to only be able to hook to a faucet with a diverter. The KYK and Enagic are good examples of this. If you hooked either of these directly to your plumbing the flow rate on the KYK would be 3 liters/min [which isn't so bad, but you wouldn't be able to get the better pH/ORP ranges that the KYK is known for.] The Enagic would come out at 6-8 liters/min. and your results would be much reduced from the Enagic’s capabilities.
  • New water ionizer owners want to gradually build up to higher levels of pH and ORP. An ability to finely control your water flow rate will help you to do that.
  • It’s nice to be able to just turn on the faucet and get your ionized water without thinking about the water flow rate, because you have already pre-set the flow rate. Using a simple device you can do that. The few seconds this saves you every time you pour your ionized water will add up to minutes and hours over time.
  • If you compare two water ionizers side-by-side, it is essential and crucial to the results to get those flow rates exactly the same.

When a water ionizer doesn’t come with a flow control knob, then most people think their only option is to rely on the faucet to control their water flow. Not so. Watch the following two videos to see what the use of a simple “Quick-Connect” water flow-rate valve can do for your water ionizer’s pH and ORP performance.

This intro video shows two kinds of Quick-Connect water flow rate valves.

 

The following videos show the pH and ORP of the Tyent Turbo and the Enagic ionized water at slow, medium and fast flow rates.

 

This chart shows Enagic and Tyent water ionizers’ performance at Level 3 [Kangen Water 9.5] at varying flow rates:
Water Ionizer Enagic SD 501 Tyent 7070 Turbo
Fast Flow Rate Test 1Test 2 10 pH / -340 ORP10.7 pH / -363 ORP 10.3  -603 ORP 
Medium Flow Rate 11 pH / -475 ORP 10.6 pH / -601 ORP
Slow Flow Rate 11.1 pH / -702 ORP 10.7 pH / -600 ORP
Fastest Flow Rate Possible [Full Flow for that Water Ionizer]  10.4 pH / -230 ORP  10.3 pH / -600 ORP

 

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When you freeze ionized water, what does that process do to the ionized water?

Taking ionized water directly from a water ionizer and pouring it into ice cube trays, and then freezing it…will your pH and ORP from ionization cancel out, reduce, or stay the same? And if so, how much?

In these videos, I demonstrate filling ice cube trays with ionized water from Level 3 of my Tyent 7070 water ionizer at 11.25 pH and -853 ORP.  When the cubes were frozen, they were removed, placed in a cup and allowed to thaw out.

The 2nd video shows the testing of the water after thawing out.

As you can see in the videos, the fresh ionized water taken directly from the water ionizer had a high pH and ORP, yet, when frozen and thawed, the pH reduced from 11.25 to 9.96 [still alkaline, but greatly reduced.] The ORP was even more drastic of a reduction. It went from -853 to +102 [a 955 point rise!].

Conclusion: The product of frozen ionized water is still filtered water, still alkaline even though greatly reduced, and has changed vectors to a positive ORP. Therefore…

If you’re making ice, go ahead and use your strongest alkaline setting! Also… ice is far less healthy for you than fresh ionized water straight from the water ionizer.

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