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Today I compared two middle-priced water ionizers, the KYK water ionizer vs Jupiter Melody water ionizer. The KYK  water ionizer is programmable, so I set it to the highest possible settings. Even so, the KYK water ionizer still did not compare as well as the Jupiter Melody water ionizer, but they were close.

You can see the videos, followed by the charts and commentaries here. The first two videos are when I compared the two water ionizers prior to customizing the programmable settings. The results were poor for the KYK, so I reprogrammed it to be set at the highest possible settings for each level. Then the last two videos show the reprogramming followed by the 2nd set of tests.

KYK at default settings

KYK at highest settings

Here are my comments about today’s water ionizer comparisons:

• I’m ignoring the first set of results, because the programming of the KYK Generation II was not at the highest settings. But with the 2nd set of tests, the Melody still did better.
• The Melody’s results for levels 1 and 2 were far better than the KYK and they had almost perfect ionized water results.
• At Level 3 the KYK did a little better than the Melody at level 3, because the pH was at a more drinkable level. However, if you compared the Level 3 of the KYK with Level 2 of the Melody, you can see the ORP is almost identical with the Melody’s pH even more drinkable. 
• At Level 4 the difference of 1/10th of a pH point is neglegible, and both water ionizes’ high alkaline results were plenty high enough to emulsify oils.
• The Melody had a slightly better low acidic pH, but both water ionizers’ low acid pH results were plenty low enough to kill germs.

This was part 5 of a series of water ionizer comparison tests that I have called Water Ionizer Face-Off. So far I have compared…

• #1 The Tyent vs. the Enagic …got a near tie between the two water ionizers but Tyent won. http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/10/22/water-ionizer-competition-1/ 
• #2 The Melody vs the Enagic …got a near tie [Enagic only a little better] between the two water ionizers. http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/10/26/enagic-kangen-vs-jupiter-melody-water-ionizers/
• #3 The Tyent Turbo vs the Chanson Miracle …Tyent was the winner.  http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/10/29/tyent-turbo-vs-chanson-miracle-water-ionizers/
• #4 The Enagic Kangen Water Ionizer [SD501] vs the Jupiter Athena …got a near tie [Athena a bit better]… http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/11/02/enagic-kangen-water-vs-jupiter-athena-water-ionizers/
• #5 KYK Generation II vs. Jupiter Melody Water Ionizers …The Jupiter Melody was the winner [today's post]

For now this is the last round of Alkaline Water Plus’s Water Ionizer Face-Off Competitions. I have gathered a lot of good information so far and that will have to do until I continue these Face-Off Competitions at some point after the holidays [or sooner if there seems to be a real need].

My overall rankings for the water ionizers compared based on the results in this 5-part Water Ionizer Face-Off Competition are:

Category #1: Best Water Ionizers [Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer, Tyent Turbo Water Ionizer, and Enagic LeveLuk SD 501 Kangen Water Ionizer]

Category #2: Better Water Ionizer [Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer]

Category #3: Good Water Ionizers [Chanson Miracle Water Ionizer and KYK Generation II Water Ionizer]

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I recorded these videos a week ago when I was getting ready to bring my Melody water ionizer to California with me [to give to one of my sons]. This series is a tribute to this fantastic water ionizer , the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer, which my family and I have been enjoying for about the past year. I’ve decided to do one last series of comparison tests, because it may be a while before I get to test the Melody against the KYK, Athena and Tyent again. In this series, I’ve tested Level 3 and Level 4 of the Melody vs. Tyent water ionizers; the Melody vs. KYK water ionizers; and the Melody vs. Athena water ionizers. What’s amazing is how well the Melody has done in comparison with these other great water ionizers. The Melody @1495.00 is less expensive than the other three water ionizers AND has a lifetime warranty. It’s also made by one of the oldest & most trusted names in water ionizers…Jupiter! Also, no matter which is your personal choice of water ionizer …for a limited time, if you mention this blog post, I’ll give you $100.00 off your purchase price for a brand new Water Ionizer! Wow! What a bargain! Here are the videos:

Melody vs Tyent Water Ionizers 

Melody vs KYK Water Ionizers 

Water Ionizer	PH	ORP	Comment
Melody Level	10.4	-390
Melody Level 4	11	-410	A Little Better
Melody Low Acid	3.4		A Little Better
KYK Level 3	10.0	-428	A Little Better
KYK Level 4	10.0	-474
KYK Low Acid	4.0

Melody vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Water Ionizer	PH	ORP	Comment
Melody Level 3	9.7	-366	A Little Better
Melody Level 4	11	-328
Melody Low Acid	3.1		A Little Better
Athena Level 3	11	-358
Athena Level 4	11.1	-360	A Little Better
Athena Low Acid	3.9

As you can see [above] the Melody tests right up there with the more expensive water ionizers. I would not hesitate to recommend a Melody water ionizer to anyone looking for a great water ionizer. My personal opinion is that the Melody is better than the Enagic, and if I had the equal option to have and use either one, I’d choose the Melody!

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It is rare that you will ever see the Enagic water ionizer in a comparison water ionizer test. Most Enagic dealers are reluctant to even want to see comparison testing. So I feel priveledged to bring these videos to you.

We tested and compared the Enagic SD 501, the Melody, the Athena, the Tyent Turbo, & the KYK Genesis 7-Plate water ionizers!

Throughout this testing there was an overall trend toward the…

Enagic not having the best quality of drinking water, but having a better ability to get the highest/lowest pH for non-drinking water [used for cleaning]. 

*See below for a good explanation of how the best quality of drinking water  for water ionizers is determined. 

I couldn’t test them all at once, so I split the testing up into two groups of three water ionizers. Each group was focused on testing two water ionizers against the Enagic [since I don't often get a chance to test the Enagic, I wanted to make sure all four of my water ionizers had a chance to be tested with the Enagic].

I’ve highlighted in red the winning water ionizer score from each group of tests. Please note: You can’t very well compare a water ionizer from group 1 to group 2, unfortunately, because of too many variables, but if you look at the Enagic as the focal point you can get an idea of how they compare. 

Comparing the Enagic, Athena, Melody, Tyent & KYK Water Ionizers

Level 3 – Drinking Water

Group 1: the Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Group 2: the Enagic, Athena & Melody @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Level 3 – Drinking Water [Cathie’s Analysis]: In the above video and chart for Ionized Water at Level 3 it can be seen that the winner for healthiest [rH] drinking water [ionized water at Level 3 for Group 1 is the Tyent, and for Group 2 it’s the Athena. The 11.05 pH, however, is probably too high to drink for most people.

Level  4 – The Extremes

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 4 or Strongest Level

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 4 or Strongest Level

Level 4: You can see in the above video and charts that the Enagic for these tests is getting the  “Low Acid”  in both videos and the Enagic gets the “High Alkaline” in the 2^nd video [with the Tyent beating the Enagic in Highest Alkaline in the 1^st video]

Level 2 – Drinking Water

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Group 2: Athena & Melody Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Level 2: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

In this group of tests the Tyent wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water Level 2

Level 1 – Intro-Level Water

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Level 1: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

In this group of tests, the Enagic wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water level 1.

One Day Later:

After 20 hours: After 20 hours of storing the Level 3 ionized water from Group 1 [above] the following videos were done. This video shows how all of the water ionizers lost a great deal of ORP in just 20 hours.

    Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK

[Level 3 Stored/Refrigerated for 20 Hours]

[Reference to video, above] How did you like that container I showed you at the end of that last video? I think I might start selling those on my website…they’re so cool!

If you have ever heard that Enagic, Kangen Water, stores better or longer than the other ionized water, I’d say this video debunks that.  

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Note: These water ionizer comparison tests were conducted in St. Peters, MO, which has a tap water which is 8.46 pH and +195 ORP
*The rH of a solution is based on a formula applied to the pH and ORP to arrive at the relation between the level of ORP to the level of pH. It is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water. I always consider the rH to be the most important measure to look at in any water ionizer comparison test.

• Here’s an example: if you have two water ionizers producing water at a pH of 9.5, and one has an ORP of -300 and the other has an ORP of -400, then the one with -400 is producing water at a healthier overall quality. Most people testing water ionizers don’t get the exact same pH readings for all the water ionizers tested. So the rH formula is necessary to really see which water ionizer is producing the healthier water. The formula is a very simple one, and anyone comparing water ionizers should look at the rH of the water at the drinking water levels if they are trying to figure out which water ionizer is best. Because ORP is a very tricky measure to get and ORP meters can vary from test to test [depending on how well or frequently they're cleaned, source water and other factors] it’s important to only compare the ORP or rH of water ionizers tested in one setting by the same tester. RH is measured on a scale of 0 to 42, with 0 being the healthiest and 42 the unhealthiest. Tap water in St. Louis is usually around 30 – 35 rH. Any water under 28 rH is considered “reducing” and so is healthy for you.
• “The relative hydrogen scale was first proposed by Clark in 1923 to the scientific community (mostly inorganic chemists) as a means of measuring the true reducing power of hydrogen present in an aqueous solution…”* Go to this website to see this article and get a more thorough and scientific explanation of rH: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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I have recently posted several videos showing the testing of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate water ionizer vs the Tyent Turbo and this is the tail end of that testing. In the first video I test the KYK vs Turbo at level 3 and in the 2nd video I test both water ionizers at Level 4 [or in the case of the Tyent Turbo, it's called the Turbo level].

In the KYK the level 4 wattage goes up as high as 200 watts and in the Turbo it goes up to 280 watts. That’s a considerable difference in the highest wattage capacity and I wanted to see how much of a difference it made in the output of ionized water.

It should be noted that no water ionizer company recommends that drinking water should be at the highest alkaline levels as one would get at Level 4. The only real reason to want your water ionizer to output that high of an alkaline level is for cleaning greasy surfaces or soaking the oily pesticides off your vegetables.

That having been said, here are the videos:

Now, here’s the chart showing the water ionizer comparison results shown in the videos:

My evaluation is this:

In all of the testing I’ve done, the Tyent Turbo out performs the KYK Genesis water ionizer in:

•  the ability to achieve the greatest pH [significant if you want to soak pesticides off of your vegetables],
• the ability to achieve the lowest acidity output [from the bottom hose]. This is significant if you want to disinfect for germs.
• The Tyent Turbo is also in the better rH at level 3. Both water ionizers are equal in rH at level 4, however the rH at level 4 is not applicable [because rH refers to the drinking water healthiness -- and you don't drink ionized water at level 4].

I hope that all makes sense! One further comment is that both water ionizers are very close in comparison to each other. I don’t think the differences are very significant. The Tyent got better results in my various series of comparison tests, but did not win by much. It should also be noted that the cost of the Tyent Turbo is now $2495.00, and the cost of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate is now $1695.00. I always look at cost when I make my water ionizer comparisons. It is something to consider.

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I’ve been comparing the KYK and Tyent water ionizers in my home in St. Louis, but I had the opportunity to take these two water ionizers with me on a trip last week so was able to compare them in South Carolina [Hilton Head Island area] which has a much different source water.

The tap water in St. Louis is a pH of 10 and ORP of +350 [usually] and the tap water in South Carolina at my dad’s house was 7.76 pH and +412 ORP. The differences between these two source waters were so great that I was very curious…

Would my KYK and Tyent Water Ionizers do as well in So. Carolina as in St. Louis? and…

How would the KYK and Tyent Water Ionizers compare with each other using the South Carolina source water?

Here are the videos and the chart of water ionizer comparisons:

Water Ionizers Compared

KYK & Tyent Turbo

in South Carolina

My analysis of this is:

The Tyent and KYK are practically identical, however the Tyent Turbo at every level was a tiny bit better than the KYK Genesis 7 Plate.

Other Notes:

• They both performed fantastically! I was so impressed, especially since the source water was so much different than St. Louis!
• The KYK required more button-pushing to operate.
• They both shut off for cleaning [causing me to wait while they cleaned themselves] — not too much time was spent on this though.
• They both went into auto self-cleaning when I turned on the power supply.

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I’ve just finished testing the KYK Genesis water ionizer in Clearwater, Florida, and got great, FANTASTIC, results!

I’ve had to do a little business and personal traveling last week and this week, so I thought I’d bring two water ionizers along and test them to see how they do. My first stop was Florida. I was so busy, that I could only test one water ionizer, so I picked the KYK [since I'm doing a big project on the KYK Genesis right now]. Circumstances were such that I didn’t even get a chance to hook the KYK up until Saturday [ yesterday] just before it was time for me to leave. My camera was all set to go, then the battery died! So I did test the KYK Genesis water ionizer, but unfortunately I have no video to share with you on this testing. Here’s the chart of the results:

Here’s my analysis:

• Level 1 seems weak, however if you consider that you’re taking the ORP from a positive 565 and changing it to a negative 40 it is amazing, really.
• Levels 2 and 3 are just fantastic! To get that high of a negative ORP for your drinking water [without having to jack the pH up too high -- is really, really exemplary!
• Level 4 [highest alkaline]: This is a little on the weak side, compared with other 7-plate water ionizer testing. Perhaps it has to do with the source water. It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t expect it to emusify oils at that level. So if you intend to soak vegetables to emulsify the pesticides and get your veggies completely free of these pesticides…I’m not sure you can do it unless you got a higher pH than about 11.
• Low Acid Setting: Again, this is weak with this source water. The KYK was able to get higher extremes [a higher alkaline pH and lower acid pH] on Level 4 in St. Louis than in Florida. This isn’t anything against this particular brand of water ionizer, it has to do with the source water.

Look forward to more testing of the KYK Genesis this week. I plan to test and compare the KYK Genesis water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer. So, stay tuned!

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I’ve been conducting some tests of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate Water Ionizer and have some more videos and charts to share with you. Click here to read my first videos & blog post, which is of Levels 1 - 3 [both alkaline and acid waters are tested].

In this video I just wanted to re-do the testing at level 3 for the KYK Genesis, because in my last videos…though the results were good for the Genesis, the Melody did equal…or maybe even a little better. This didn’t make sense to me [because the Melody only has 5 plates and the Genesis water ionizer has 7 plates. So, in this re-test, the KYK Genesis had about the same results as in the previous test. pH =  11.04 & ORP = -809.

Here I have another video showing the KYK Genesis water ionizer at levels 2, 3, and 4. The data found is reported in the chart below the video. I have to say I'm disapointed that the KYK Genesis does not have the cleaning cycle that I thought it had. I will have to double-check this with the technicians on Monday, but as you can see in the video, the Genesis water ionizer does go into an acid wash cleaning cycle which requires the user to wait while the water ionizer is cleaning itself. This is probably no big deal for most people, but I like it when I don't have to be inconvenienced with waiting for my water ionizer to clean itself. I think that when children are around [pouring their own water] it’s a good idea to have a water ionizer that cleans itself well without making you wait for an acid wash.

Here’s the Chart:

Genesis Water ionizer: Table Shows Results of

Water Ionizer Comparisons at Level 2, 3, & 4

My thoughts on this KYK Genesis water ionizer so far is that it has a fantastic rH [ORP for the level of pH] at levels 3 and 4. Why level one is not good, I’m not sure. I need to call the technicians anyway to find out why the literature says no waiting is needed for the Genesis water ionizer to clean itself but in fact you do have to wait for the traditional acid wash. I’ll fill you in on the answer to this when I find out. At the same time, I will find out if there are other settings I should have done in the set-up.

Overall, though, this is an awesome water ionizer, and I think it’s better than the Enagic. It appears to be about equal to the Tyent 7070 and Life 7600.

I will be doing more testing of the Enagic [who call themselves the Kangen Water Machine] as soon as I return to St. Louis on about the 1st of Sept. Next week I’ll share a little blurb about the KYK in Florida, and then I’ll do some extensive testing and comparisons of the KYK and Tyent Turbo in South Caronina. I can’t wait to see the differences with different source water! So stay tuned!

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This week I have the pleasure and opportunity to compare the KYK Genesis 7-Plate Water Ionizer and the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer! I’ll be videoing & blogging about it as I go.

This is the first of a series of videos about the KYK Genesis water ionizer. Here’s the first set of 2 videos, entitled: The KYK Genesis 7-Plate and the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizers Compared at Levels 1, 2, and 3. It is a 2-part video.

Table Shows Results of Water Ionizer Comparisons at Level 1, 2, & 3 for the Genesis Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer.

Here’s another video comparing the KYK Genesis with the Melody water ionizers at Level 3.

Here’s a Charts to go with the above video…

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The KYK Genesis at Levels 2, 3 & 4 is being tested by me in this video. The chart below shows the pH and ORP of the alkaline ionized water at these levels and the pH of the lowest acid level.

rH = Relative Hydrogen [the healthiness of the water relative to the pH setting]. The smaller the number — the better. On a scale of 0 – 42, 0 is the healthiest and 42 is the unhealthiest. Tap water is usually around 30 – 35.My thoughts on this KYK Genesis water ionizer is that it has a fantastic rH [ORP for the level of pH] at levels 3 and 4. Why level one is not good, I’m not sure. I need to call the technicians anyway to find out why the literature says no waiting is needed for the Genesis water ionizer to clean itself but in fact you do have to wait for the traditional acid wash. I’ll fill you in on the answer to this when I find out. At the same time, I will find out if there are other settings I should have done in the set-up.

Overall, though, this is an awesome water ionizer, and I think it’s better than the Enagic. It appears to be about equal to the Tyent 7070 and Life 7600.

I will be doing more testing of the Enagic [who call themselves the Kangen Water Machine] as soon as I return to St. Louis on about the 1st of Sept. Next week I’ll share a little blurb about the KYK in Florida, and then I’ll do some extensive testing and comparisons of the KYK and Tyent Turbo in South Caronina. I can’t wait to see the differences with different source water! So stay tuned!

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What is the Water Ionizer Armor, and how will it SAVE YOUR WATER IONIZER?

In this video, I demonstrate the new “Water Ionizer Armor”. This is a magnetic device which will save the life of your water ionizer by not allowing calcium to stick to the insides of your water ionizer machine! Calcium scale build-up is the enemy of every water ionizer, no matter whether you own a Melody, Athena, Life, Tyent, KYK, Jupiter, Chanson, Enagic Kangen Water or other water ionizer! 

Why did I buy a Water Ionizer Armor if my Melody Water Ionizer cleans itself so well?

My Melody Water Ionizer does clean itself really, really well [as I've described on many other blogs], but that cleaning is going on inside the water cell. There are lots of other parts inside every water ionizer that could be affected by scale build-up. The spout is one example. I plan to have my water ionizer for 20 or so years and all that time I want my water ionizer to be as healthy as I am!

Ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, to this I would add that over time, the pH and ORP should also stay consistent with when you bought it. That is achieved both with really good cleaning and with using something like the Ionizer Armor.

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