Kangen Scam on Ebay:

Sold! $2001.00 [New!]

Scammers are Making the Enagic SD 501 Water Ionizer Harder for MLMers to Sell!

I knew there was a reason I didn’t like MLM [multi-level-marketing] and this is one reason why:

People pay a lot for the Enagic SD 501, and many of those people are trusting that they can at least recoup some of their money by selling their friends and associates a water ionizer, thus helping their friends and at the same time getting a commission on the sale. The way Enagic works is that you are at different levels, according to how many water ionizers you have sold.

• 1A: If you’ve personally sold 1 or 2, you make $285. for each sale, plus you get about that much from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep.
• 2A: If you’ve personally sold 3 or more, you make $570. for each sale, plus you get $285 – $570 from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep.
• 3A: If you’ve personally sold 11 or more, you make $855. for each sale, plus you get $285 -$855 from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep.
• 4A: If you’ve personally sold 21 or more, you make $1140. for each sale, plus you get $285 -$1140 from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep..
• 5A: If you’ve personally sold 51 or more, you make $1425. for each sale, plus you get $285 -$1425 from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep..
• 6A: If you’ve personally sold 101 or more, you make $1710. for each sale, plus you get $285 -$1710 from each of your down-line to the 8th level deep..

Some way the Ebay scammers are getting ahold of these Enagic machines at a price that is under $2000. They then sell Enagic Kangen water Ionizers on Ebay at a greatly reduced rate. People who don’t care to join the MLK will be happy to pay this slashed price. Perhaps what they’re doing is buying the water ionizers at their discounted rate and passing the savings onto the customer. But however it’s being done, it’s got to really hurt the little guys who are just trying to make a few dollars for giving their water away. This scam is greatly undercutting all of the Enagic dealers, and I wonder why Enagic, themselves, doesn’t put a stop to it.

At the time of this writing there are a few people doing this. Here’s a link to a real-time listing where this seller is offering the Enagic Leveluk SD 501 Kangen Water Ionizer for $3099.99. http://shop.ebay.com/akawaid/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=50 He’s clearly giving the buyer about a $900.00 discount. If he is at level 6A, above, then he is still making $800.00 on the sale! If at the time you read this post, this link doesn’t work, I’m sure you can find some other scammer doing the same thing.

Why do I say he’s a scammer? The reason is, he’s seeking to take unfair advantage of the thousands of people who follow the MLM rules. The success of any MLM depends on a unique product, that people need, that people will want to tell their friends about, and that has company rules, commissions and prices which are fair and followed. What he’s doing is violating the rules of his MLM agreement, but he’s not revealing his distributor name or ID on Ebay, so he’s getting away with it. 

Many people just want to get a good water ionizer, and they’ve heard this is a good one. Since a good water ionizer will probably last 20 – 30 years the person might not particularly worried that this guy’s water ionizer isn’t coming with a warranty. They’ve heard that if something goes wrong with their water ionizer, then it’s usually no more expensive to fix than having a repairman for any other house-hold appliance [often cheaper], so they’re really not worried. But they’re trying to save money, and they don’t want to buy-into the MLM of Enagic. This all leads the person to want to buy from this guy on Ebay. Not everyone will do this, but plenty of people will. Money does talk. 

Can the Enagic Sales Scam be Eliminated?

I doubt that the undercutting of authorized sales prices set by the Enagic Company will be stopped. It’s very hard to catch everyone who violates the rules on the internet. If you caught one guy, another 3 might pop up and take his place. That’s probably one reason why Enagic stays away from internet sales. However, I do believe that the company, Enagic, has a duty and responsibility to do everything they can to find these scammers on Ebay or other selling sites, who are trying to take unfair advantage of honest people who are following the MLM guidelines set.

In the meantime, if you’re reading this and wondering if you should buy from that guy on Ebay for a $900.00 discount…No. You souldn’t. The Enagic Kangen water ionizer gets half of its value from the MLM aspect. Without the potential of earning some or all of your money back, the $3,000. discounted price just simply isn’t a good deal. The Enagic LeveLuk SD501 is a good water ionizer, but it under-performs in comparison to the KYK, Melody, Tyent and the Athena. Plus, without the warranty, you have no way of being assured at all.

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It is rare that you will ever see the Enagic water ionizer in a comparison water ionizer test. Most Enagic dealers are reluctant to even want to see comparison testing. So I feel priveledged to bring these videos to you.

We tested and compared the Enagic SD 501, the Melody, the Athena, the Tyent Turbo, & the KYK Genesis 7-Plate water ionizers!

Throughout this testing there was an overall trend toward the…

Enagic not having the best quality of drinking water, but having a better ability to get the highest/lowest pH for non-drinking water [used for cleaning]. 

*See below for a good explanation of how the best quality of drinking water  for water ionizers is determined. 

I couldn’t test them all at once, so I split the testing up into two groups of three water ionizers. Each group was focused on testing two water ionizers against the Enagic [since I don't often get a chance to test the Enagic, I wanted to make sure all four of my water ionizers had a chance to be tested with the Enagic].

I’ve highlighted in red the winning water ionizer score from each group of tests. Please note: You can’t very well compare a water ionizer from group 1 to group 2, unfortunately, because of too many variables, but if you look at the Enagic as the focal point you can get an idea of how they compare. 

Comparing the Enagic, Athena, Melody, Tyent & KYK Water Ionizers

Level 3 – Drinking Water

Group 1: the Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Group 2: the Enagic, Athena & Melody @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Level 3 – Drinking Water [Cathie’s Analysis]: In the above video and chart for Ionized Water at Level 3 it can be seen that the winner for healthiest [rH] drinking water [ionized water at Level 3 for Group 1 is the Tyent, and for Group 2 it’s the Athena. The 11.05 pH, however, is probably too high to drink for most people.

Level  4 – The Extremes

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 4 or Strongest Level

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 4 or Strongest Level

Level 4: You can see in the above video and charts that the Enagic for these tests is getting the  “Low Acid”  in both videos and the Enagic gets the “High Alkaline” in the 2^nd video [with the Tyent beating the Enagic in Highest Alkaline in the 1^st video]

Level 2 – Drinking Water

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Group 2: Athena & Melody Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Level 2: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

In this group of tests the Tyent wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water Level 2

Level 1 – Intro-Level Water

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Level 1: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

In this group of tests, the Enagic wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water level 1.

One Day Later:

After 20 hours: After 20 hours of storing the Level 3 ionized water from Group 1 [above] the following videos were done. This video shows how all of the water ionizers lost a great deal of ORP in just 20 hours.

    Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK

[Level 3 Stored/Refrigerated for 20 Hours]

[Reference to video, above] How did you like that container I showed you at the end of that last video? I think I might start selling those on my website…they’re so cool!

If you have ever heard that Enagic, Kangen Water, stores better or longer than the other ionized water, I’d say this video debunks that.  

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Note: These water ionizer comparison tests were conducted in St. Peters, MO, which has a tap water which is 8.46 pH and +195 ORP
*The rH of a solution is based on a formula applied to the pH and ORP to arrive at the relation between the level of ORP to the level of pH. It is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water. I always consider the rH to be the most important measure to look at in any water ionizer comparison test.

• Here’s an example: if you have two water ionizers producing water at a pH of 9.5, and one has an ORP of -300 and the other has an ORP of -400, then the one with -400 is producing water at a healthier overall quality. Most people testing water ionizers don’t get the exact same pH readings for all the water ionizers tested. So the rH formula is necessary to really see which water ionizer is producing the healthier water. The formula is a very simple one, and anyone comparing water ionizers should look at the rH of the water at the drinking water levels if they are trying to figure out which water ionizer is best. Because ORP is a very tricky measure to get and ORP meters can vary from test to test [depending on how well or frequently they're cleaned, source water and other factors] it’s important to only compare the ORP or rH of water ionizers tested in one setting by the same tester. RH is measured on a scale of 0 to 42, with 0 being the healthiest and 42 the unhealthiest. Tap water in St. Louis is usually around 30 – 35 rH. Any water under 28 rH is considered “reducing” and so is healthy for you.
• “The relative hydrogen scale was first proposed by Clark in 1923 to the scientific community (mostly inorganic chemists) as a means of measuring the true reducing power of hydrogen present in an aqueous solution…”* Go to this website to see this article and get a more thorough and scientific explanation of rH: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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What is the Water Ionizer Armor, and how will it SAVE YOUR WATER IONIZER?

In this video, I demonstrate the new “Water Ionizer Armor”. This is a magnetic device which will save the life of your water ionizer by not allowing calcium to stick to the insides of your water ionizer machine! Calcium scale build-up is the enemy of every water ionizer, no matter whether you own a Melody, Athena, Life, Tyent, KYK, Jupiter, Chanson, Enagic Kangen Water or other water ionizer! 

Why did I buy a Water Ionizer Armor if my Melody Water Ionizer cleans itself so well?

My Melody Water Ionizer does clean itself really, really well [as I've described on many other blogs], but that cleaning is going on inside the water cell. There are lots of other parts inside every water ionizer that could be affected by scale build-up. The spout is one example. I plan to have my water ionizer for 20 or so years and all that time I want my water ionizer to be as healthy as I am!

Ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, to this I would add that over time, the pH and ORP should also stay consistent with when you bought it. That is achieved both with really good cleaning and with using something like the Ionizer Armor.

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Here are some more water ionizer testimonials! I just came across these. They’re audio testimonials from people drinking ionized water from Enagic [Kangen Water] water ionizers

Fantastic Water Ionizer [also called Kangen Water] Testimonials!

CP 5-7-09
CP is a stage 4 cancer survivor, who was diagnosed 10 years ago with breast cancer and had an aggressive treatment for it at the time. Then a year later had another bout of breast cancer and had more chemo, and then 4 years after that it had spread. She started the chemo treatments back up, but because it was taking longer and longer for her to recover from each treatment, and it was making her too sick to function, she quit the treatments. Then 2 months later she discovered Kangen water [the Enagic term for ionized water].

She felt tired all the time and everything hurt prior to drinking Kangen water.

• Here’s what happened after drinking Kangen [ionized] water:
• constipation stopped
• blood pressure lowered
• no more sugar cravings
• felt 20 yrs youngerlot of energy
• MRI & scans are showing up nothing so far!

G: 2-12-09
Last year in Nov…G had a tumor in his jaw. He underwent traditional radiation treatments & surgery. Then a few weeks later some lymph nodes had spots cancer in them … so had more radiation on them. As a result, G had a lot of ulcers & sores in mouth, loss of taste & lot of discomfort. When he started drinking ionized water [Kangen water] here’s what he did:

• He sprayed 11.5 pH water on the sores
• He drank 8.5 water

In amazement to the doctor, in about three days the ulcers were just about completely gone. However after a few weeks some of the cancers returned, and he continued the treatments.

So he continued drinking the water and in addition went to the full 33 treatments [completed last treatment]. Maintained weight and health all the way through the treatments, and didn’t even miss a day of work.

K: 07/08
K was a 25 year cancer survivor, but in 2006 had an onslaught of after effects including traditionally untreatable [due to her former extensive treatments] breast cancer, neuropathy, installed pacemaker, and was put on disability [virtually could do nothing and that would make her tired]. She started a natural treatment program including drinking ionized [Kangen] water.

K has been drinking Kangen water for a year.
Here’s what happened when she started drinking ionized [Kangen] water:
increased vitality
back to being able to do things
skin, hair, well-being returning to her

K’s Son: 07/08
K’s son has had a condition since birth of lymphatic malformation. He had sever excess fluids in chest and extreme learning disabilities. He drank the water for one week and she saw extreme benefits in his learning abilities. His story ideas were actually legible, and he was able to do math [when he couldn't do any math on his own before]. His chest fluids are now able to be maintained at normal acceptable levels now! He has no more acid reflux. He doesn’t need speech and occupational therapy anymore!

D: 05/08
D, an eleven year breast cancer survivor has used a combination of medical and natural treatments all these years. The pain re-appeared about 18 months ago, but the cancer was not showing up on scans. D was introduced just about that time to the ideas of pH and acidity and tested herself as acidic. So, she started drinking ionized [Kangen] water in Oct. ‘08 The pain went away in 3 weeks and has never returned.

DS 6/07
DS didn’t actually believe the stories about Kangen water, but brought some of the water to friend’s son who had lymphoma cancer. He thought if it helps Jason [his friend's son] then he’ll become a believer. His friend even bought a unit for Jason to get fresh water. When the cancer from Jason’s lips, nose and legs all started going away in two weeks of drinking the water, DS started becoming a believer. So he got his own machine. Here’s what has happened since then:

• His Mom’s arthritis is gone.
• His father can sleep now [had insomnia-hadn't slept well for years] &
• his father’s arthritis disappeared.

DS started to tell all neighbors. One lady next door had hepatitis C…gave her water and 3 days later she came to tell how great she felt [she demanded more water]…in few days after that she wanted her own machine.

E: 6/07
E had a family history of breast cancer, and she watched her aunts go through much struggle with surgery and treatments on their breast cancer. Because of this, she didn’t want this invasive surgery for her own cancerous tumor. So, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer, she called a friend who was into health and nutrition and he told her about Kangen [ionized] water. Started drinking 5 – 7 liters of the water per day and got her own water ionizer. Soon, she started to feel really good. Her surgery was postponed for a month so she could give this water a chance to work on its own. Her tumor had shrunk from 8cm to 2cm in that time. Two and ½ months later her tumor markers are all normal and she is essentially cured. She says, “The body will heal itself if it’s provided with the proper environment”.

M: 3/22/07
Diagnosed with Hodgkin’s disease started chemo, and it was so awful she stopped the treatment. She began a natural alternative treatment: she drank Kangen water and started eating alkaline to treat herself. She also read books and started filling her world with a positive attitude. After four months, she had another Kat scan and other tests which all verified that the lymphoma was completely gone.

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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I’m passing the time right now [I'm waiting for UPS to bring me the KYK Genesis 7-plate water ionizer that I plan to test this week] and I was thinking of something a customer asked me earlier today. She asked…

Do People Get the Same Kind of Great Benefits from the Melody, Tyent, KYK, Enagic or Life Water Ionizers?

There are many different water ionizers…do they all give great benefits [similar to the other water ionizers]? The answer is, “Yes.” From my personal observation and years of experience, a water ionizer is a water ionizer. It ionizes water…and ionized water has certain health benefits for people who drink it.

I’ve heard customers say some of the most fantastic things. It’s not only my Melody water ionizer customers, or my Tyent water ionizer customers….or Enagic, Life, KYK, Chanson. These are great testimonials from people who have bought any and all of these water ionizers.

For example, a lady who JUST STARTED drinking ionized water maybe 2 weeks ago told me it is helping with her allergies and sleep ALREADY and she made a big point to tell me she didn’t have to take alka seltzer anymore! She said she’s been taking alka seltzer for years at night because of heartburn. And since she started drinking ionized water she hasn’t had to do this!

Another example is this lady who bought an Athena water ionizer & she has a daughter who has been cured at this point from the same rash [extreme dry skin] condition that the babies on my research videos page had. Within just a few weeks her little baby girl was so much improved that it changed the family’s lives.

Another customer has had her new Tyent Turbo water ionizer now for a few weeks, and has noticed a difference in her asthma [seriously reduced wheezing].

Another customer who has been drinking ionized water from her new Melody water ionizer thanks me constantly [every few weeks] for giving her a payment plan to help her buy her new water ionizer. She doesn’t think she can live without it anymore…she just didn’t have any energy before [and now she does!] and she is energetically telling all her friends about it.

A lady I spoke with today, said that since she’s been drinking ionized water from her Chiropractor’s Enagic water ionizer, she has been feeling so much better! She sleeps better and has fewer aches and pains and things wrong with her digestive system. A different lady [same water ionizer] says after she started drinking “Kangen Water” she started urinating more…and with that came increased energy [every single time]!

A couple who bought the Chanson Miracle water ionizer are feeling healthy and energetic. They say they like the water very much!

My Life and KYK water ionzer customers are extremely satisfied too!

Those are just a few short testimonials that I’ve heard in the past couple of weeks. But I bring them up to make a point. People who are drinking ionized water [no matter which water ionizer they get it from] are having great health benefits! I have been collecting lots of testimonials on my website. So check it out!

Take it from someone who knows! After 17 years of drinking ionized water, I can definitely say that drinking ionized water is a very, very healthy thing to do!

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Is There a Big Deal Difference Between Enagic and Other Water Ionizers?

Actually, No! The Enagic water ionizer “Kangen Water” company is real good at talking the talk, but actually, I’ve had hands-on experience with the Enagic LeveLuk SD501 water ionizer and it is simply and only a water ionizer.

I shouldn’t call Enagic “Only a water ionizer”, because it, like all the other water ionizers, is WONDERFUL! REALLY!

However, actually after having personally reviewed and done tons of tests on water ionizers…this testing of the Enagic looks to be the worst results of all….I’m sorry to say. I was so hopeful and happy and confident I was going to see great results too. What a disappointment! You can see my videos here:

Please note, when you’re watching the video, that the pH announced by the voice in the water ionizer does NOT match the pH tested. That’s because the Enagic is not really telling you a correct pH…it’s an estimated pH.

That estimated pH can be way, way off from reality…as you can see.

Enagic claims that their water ionizer produces Kangen Water [a magical water that heals]. Actually it is magical and does heal…but it’s because it is ionized water. The term “Kangen Water” is a coined and trademarked term which is all part of the Enagic’s marketing strategy to set themselves apart from the other water ionizers. But…

I think Enagic is making a big mistake by setting themselves apart from other water ionizers.

As people realize what ionized water is, and how beneficial it is, and how similar it is to ionized water from the KYK, Tyent, Life, Melody, Athena, and Chanson water ionizers…I think they may feel a little betrayed. After all, they are an MLM company, and I see people every day who are suspicious of this. Rightfully so.

Here’s the Worst thing about The Enagic Water Ionizer Company: They Don’t Offer a Satisfaction Guarantee!

That is very suspicious to me. It just really smells of being afraid to have people buy their Enagic LeveLuk SD501 water ionizer, test it for pH and ORP and promptly return it because it is inferior to the other water ionizers after all. And, I’m not too sure their fear isn’t justified.

The Enagic company makes too many unfounded claims of superiority, i.e., their water ionizer is the best. They say, “You get what you pay for.” But…

In my book…with the Enagic….you are not getting as good of a product as many of the other water ionizers!

The technology the Enagic company uses for self-cleaning, for instance, is not as advanced as the Jupiter and KYK water ionizer models. The Life water ionizer company beats Enagic in their smps electronics system and their Vitamin C filter, UV Light and mesh plates. The Tyent seems equal to the Enagic, except they have better plates [because they're slotted for better electrolysis] and they have turbo [285 watt] power potential. And the Jupiter IonLife Company has an A+ BBB rating as opposed to Enagic’s B+ rating.  Also Enagic doesn’t mention how many research PHD scientists are on their research and development staff. I’m guessing they don’t come close to Jupiter’s 20 PHD scientists.

So, what’s the big deal difference between Enagic and other water ionizers?

Answer: The price.

That’s about it!

Except some of the other water ionizers are better!

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Research shows that the consumption of alkaline ionized water reverses the acidity in the body tissues and organs which leads to disease and as such leads to reverse-aging. It is a well-known fact that diseased organs are acidic. Therefore, it follows that to reverse the acidity of the organs and tissues in the body could reverse the course of diseases.

 Dr. Otto Warberg (Nobel Prize Winner, 1932) stated that “Cancer is caused by the lack of oxygen and the fermentation of sugars.” This is due to a low pH acidic environment.

Why does ionized water help the overall health of both animals and humans? There are several reasons:

• Alkaline ionized water is alkaline (obviously) and therefore enters more alkalinity into the body cells, tissues and organs. This allows the buffering effect to take place. This further allows toxins (acids) to leave the cells, tissues, and organs and be flushed out of the body. Thus, alkaline ionized water produces in the body a healthy state of slightly alkaline pH, and research shows that fungus, cancer and other disease pathogens do not thrive in an alkaline state, they do well in an acidic state.
• Alkaline ionized water, being water (and not having calories), does not require digestion, and thus bypasses the digestive system and goes straight to the cells, tissues and organs needing hydration. An example of this: If a person who is constipated is directed to drink 16 to 32 ounces of alkaline ionized water and wait about 20 minutes, they will see a dramatic effect in hydrating the tissues in the rectum which will in turn allow the elimination process to occur. 
• Alkaline Ionized water is reduced in cluster size to about half the size of what comes out of your tap. This contributes to the cells, tissues and organs ability to absorb that water and thus achieve the hydration needed to reverse the diseased condition.
• Alkaline ionized water is run through a sophisticated filter which removes the harmful chemicals and substances from the water, but allows the good minerals (such as calcium and magnesium) to pass through.
• Alkaline ionized water produced by a water ionizer which is certified (such as the Jupiter Melody, Enagic SD501 [Kangen Water], Tyent, Life, Athena, Delphi, KYK, or Chansen) will reduce the ORP of the water and thus your water will have an anti-oxidant effect in the body (in such a way as orange juice does).
• Alkaline ionized water has been reported as having a more pleasant taste and contributing to a refreshed feeling after drinking. Thus this water is more likely to be enjoyed by consumers.
• Alkaline ionized water is shown to be far superior to any other water, especially tap, reverse osmosis, or bottled waters. The alkaline ionized water is exclusively reported as having the qualities listed here, while other waters do not.

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