Many people have requested a comparison of the Jupiter Orion, Aquarius, Athena, Melody and Venus water ionizers. So I’ve constructed this chart to help you see the similarities and differences between these great water ionizers.

Here’s some direct links for you to get more information:

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Whenever I’ve compared the Venus Water Ionizer with the Melody, KYK, Tyent, etc. it has always tested a bit lower than those other water ionizers in most areas. It is less expensive than the other Jupiter water ionizers, and so one would expect it to test a little lower. It is a pretty good water ionizer though. That’s why today I’m going to take a minute to tell you about the Venus water ionizer and show you some testing videos I’ve done.

The Venus water ionizer is a Jupiter water ionizer, and so has the Jupiter advantage. Here are some of Jupiter Water Ionizers’ superior attributes:

• Jupiter water ionizers use the Biostone filters. Biostone filters can be purchased for city water [Biostone Plus] or for well water [or people with immune disfunctions] [Biostone .01] .
• The Jupiter products [including their filters] are thoroughly tested by outside sources and pdf documents are available to show the test results. http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/Biostone-testing.PDF
• The Jupiter company is the oldest water ionizer company who is still selling water ionizers in the US.
• The Jupiter water ionizers come with a lifetime parts warranty and 5-year parts/labor warranty.

Here are my testing videos:

A little story behind this testing is that a friend of mine in Phoenix bought this water ionizer but couldn’t get the acid water to go below about a 5 pH and the ionized water was a bit cloudy. He was convinced the water ionizer was no good because of this. However, in Phoenix the water is very hard plus it has a high TDS [total dissolved solids]. The combination of the extremely hard water and high TDS was just too much for the Venus and it wasn’t getting good ionization under those circumstances. However here in St. Louis the Venus water ionizer is testing great [as you can see by the videos and charted results below]. The quality of the source water makes a big difference in a water ionizer’s performance. My friend lives in an apartment and with limitations on what he can do and he isn’t in a position to be able to install a scale-block prefilter or reverse osmosis. So he exchanged the Venus for an Orion water ionizer. The Orion is able to get better ionization than the Venus in Phoenix water, so he has decided to keep the Orion. It’s not perfect, though, and the only way to really fix a problem like that so the ionizer works perfectly is to use prefilters and anti-scaling devices or a reverse-osmosis-remineralizer. Unfortunately with differing water qualities around the country some people have to do more and spend more to get their water quality straightened out.

The Jupiter Venus water ionizer isn’t as strong of an ionizer as many of the other water ionizers I sell. It doesn’t get as good ORP per unit of pH as the Melody [....which doesn't get as good as the Orion, Athena, Aquarius, or Delphi water ionizers], but in its own right it is a very good water ionizer and is worth mentioning. Here is the chart, showing the results of the above videos, and the results are not bad at all.

I would say if you can afford to get a better water ionizer I suggest you get a water ionizer in the “best” category [better ORP per unit of pH..such as the Orion, Athena, Aquarius, Tyent and Miracle water ionizers], but in my mind there is a “near best” category [Melody, IonQuench] and a “very good” category [Venus and Eden] which are worthy of consideration especially for young and healthy families on a tight budget who don’t live in areas with very hard water. For my family and me during our first 15 years of drinking ionized water we knew only one ionizer, the old Ange water ionizer, which would test lower in comparison with any of the water ionizers we sell on my site today, and we were just as happy as we could be with it. 

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ATHENA & ORION WATER IONIZERS

I just finished testing and comparing the Jupiter Orion water ionizer against my own water ionizer, the Athena water ionizer. Both water ionizers are made by the same manufacturer, Jupiter water ionizers, but they have a $300. difference in price. I always assumed that the Athena was the best, so I guess I skipped right over the Orion water ionizer and its fraternal twin, the Aquarius water ionizer [the Orion and Aquarius water ionizers are exactly the same on the inside, but look different on the outside], in doing all my comparing and analyzing of water ionizers.

The bottom line is the Orion water ionizer tests equal to the Athena water ionizer!

The following two videos and charts show the testing and comparing of water ionizers that I did. I was very impressed with the Orion in appearance and performance. It’s a great selection for anyone looking for the best performing water ionizers.

Comparing Athena and Orion Water Ionizers

According to the results of the testing, there is very little variation in pH and ORP from one ionizer to the other. This is exactly as I had predicted, because they are virtually the same water ionizer except for the flow control knob and the extra filter in the Athena water ionizer.

Another thing that impressed me with the Orion water ionizer was the sheer beauty of it. I’m not sure if this comes across well in picture or video format, but in real life…the Orion’s beauty is impressive.  Both the Athena and Orion water ionizers are also fantastic in their internal cleaning of the plates. Everything is done behind the scenes with their patented DARC cleaning system, making these water ionizers the easiest water ionizers to use. The Jupiter water ionizer company did a great job with the design and aesthetics of these two great water ionizers.

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What is the Best Water Ionizer News from 2009?

The Improved Water Ionizer Warranties!

As we get ready to end our year 2009 it’s time to celebrate some of the highlights. Looking back over the year, I think the best change for the water ionizer industry ever is the introduction of “Lifetime Warranties”. What that does is give you, the consumer, the confidence to know that if your water ionizer breaks down prematurely, due to some design flaw or something beyond your control, you are protected! That’s great security!

Here’s a breakdown of the water ionizer companies and their warranty improvements [or not] for the year 2009:

Jupiter Water Ionizers:

Started the year 2009 with 5-year warranties, but now have Lifetime Warrantees! 

The Jupiter Company water ionizers: Athena Water Ionizer, The Delphi, The Melody Water Ionizer, The Orion Water Ionizers, and the Venus Water Ionizer … all now come with Lifetime Warrantees! These are sold by Ion Life [the Melody and Orion] and Ion Ways [the Athena and Delphi], two related companies. Here are the links to the exact warranty cards so you can see for yourselves!

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/IonWays_Warranty_AUG_09.pdf

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/WarrantyCardIonLife-aug09.pdf

Chanson Water Ionizers:

Started 2009 with 5-year warranties and now are covered by Lifetime Warranties. Here’s the link for that:

http://www.chansonalkalinewater.com/chanson_ionizer_warranty

Life Water ionizers

Life water ionizers started 2009 with 5-year warranties with an optional 10-year upgrade [and 20-year warranty on their plates], and are now also giving Lifetime Warranties [but only if you follow their reasonable guidelines for water ionizer care]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/life-water-ionizers

Tyent water ionizers

Tyent water ionizers started off with 5-year warranties. Tyent’s plates are now warrantied for 20 years, and Tyent gives the customer an option to purchase extended 10-year warranties.

KYK water ionizers

KYK water ionizer warranties haven’t changed, and KYK water ionizers are still covered by 5-Year Warrantees [but their prices have come down].

Enagic Water Ionizers

Enagic warranties haven’t changed, and Enagic [Kangen Water] water ionizers are still covered by 5-year warranties.

In this day and age when all of the water ionizer companies are competing with each other for your business, the consumers benefit. And these new warranties are an example of that.

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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This is a fictitious letter, listing everything we’d love to see in a perfect water ionizer. We’d love it if a water ionizer would live up to all of our expectations! We do have some water ionizers which come very close though. Read on to see which and why. 

Dear Water Ionizer Manufacturer:

I am interested in becoming an exclusive USA distributor for a perfect water ionizer. When I say perfect, I mean perfect in every way. Here are my specifications:

A Wish-List for a Perfect Water Ionizer:

We, we will be very meticulous in choosing the right water ionizer to represent. We insist that this water ionizer has the following:

• is manufactured with UL, ISO and CE standards and we will want proof that your water ionizers are built to the standards we have agreed upon [which the ISO, CE and UL certificates will help to do]. We will visit the factory regularly to make sure the standards are met perfectly.
• the electrodes are platinum coated titanium plates in which the plates are coated AFTER all cutting is done and the coating is applied and baked to the standards of a sufficient thickness to last a lifetime.
• the filters must be able to filter out fluoride, chlorine, chloramine, arsenic, lead, and all other common contaminants and be certified as safe filters. We will want certified independent laboratory proof that the filters do this — we will not just take your word for it. We will want to offer a lifetime warranty on these water ionizers and will want assurances that the water ionizer we choose will perform well for this time period. I
• the water ionizer we choose will have to test well [with a comparible or better pH and ORP to the other water ionizers we sell]. So whether the design has mesh or solid plates or whatever the number and size of plates it has — we insist it tests the best.
• we insist on is that the water ionizer we choose has an automatic self-cleaning of the electrode plates without stopping the water-flow production [in other words a system similar to the Jupiter models' DARC system].
• the water ionizer we choose will have to look nice in the kitchen and be a reasonable size [similar to the other water ionizers we sell].
• this water ionizer will have to have the capability to regulate water flow and turn water on/off via a dial or knob on the water ionizer itself, so that it can be hooked up to the main water line.
• we’d like to be able to produce 30 gallons [@9.5 pH with a -400 or better ORP] per day of ionized water with this water ionizer
• it must come with stainless steel diverters that can hook up to a faucet [and have adapters so that the most common faucets are easily adapted to fit the provided adapters. In addition it must have included a fitting that will allow the direct water-pipe connection giving the customer all he/she needs to choose either option for water supply connection.
• it must come with 1/4 inch food-grade water input hose at least 4' in length to accommodate the easy installation for the customer and we prefer a 1/2 inch grey rubber acid water drain hose, because it rests better on the sink.
• we would like a suction-cup attachment to the bottom of the acid water hose which keeps the acid water hose out of the way of the dishwater in the sink.
• this water ionizer must be easy to use and come with an easy to read manual and installation DVD, so there are no questions or confusions about how to set up and operate the water ionizer.
• the warranty card and other contact information also must be to our specifications and included in the kit.
• this perfect water ionizer needs to be packed in a box that has Styrofoam fitted to the form of the water ionizer and all of its parts, so as to ensure it will withstand the potentially rough handling of shipping. Also, it should include a pH testing kit.
• the water ionizer should also include pH & ORP meters which show the actual pH and ORP of the water output. In addition whatever instructions to keep the meters clean and stored properly should be included too. [This option can come separately at an extra price for those who want it]
• we’d like a calcium insert basket, like the Jupiter water ionizers have, as part of the design of the water ionizer, because some customers living in soft-water areas have been able to use this instead of having to put a remineralizer & housing in their water ionizer input line.
• we’d like a saline port, like the Enagic has, so customers who want the strongest acid are able to get it.

We will want to sell these at a reasonable price. We want to try to keep the price down around $1500. We want the best though, so we’ll need an engineer working on this who has ingenious capabilities and who has a mind for economy, luxury and excellence all in one design.

We will look forward to your speedy response. In the meantime, we do have several practically perfect water ionizers now, so you should be aware we are very picky.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com

This was a ficticious letter, but we’d welcome a reply from a real manufacturer who could live up to our perfect expectations. Most water ionizer manufacturers wouldn’t and couldn’t live up to these standards. What I was asking for costs a lot of money to do!

First of all, the platinum alone is going for $1350.00 per ounce right now! I’m asking to have the plates at least double-coated with pure platinum!  Manufacturers who cut corners on this [by using platinum alloys] are sprouting up all over. It’s not safe to substitute platinum for a platinum alloy. The platinum alloy may be safe for many years, but will eventually break down and the alloying metals will potentially leach into your water as well as exposing the titanium to your water-flow. The main point I’m making here is…

You just can’t cut corners on the platinum!

Actually, I can afford to be picky in my water ionizer standards, because…

I already offer nearly all of the things on my Wish-List for a Perfect Water Ionizer !

… with the Jupiter Melody and Jupiter Athena water ionizers! Most of my other water ionizers also are close to this good as well. If you read my letter [above] you will see everything that comes standard with the Jupiter Melody and Jupiter Athena water ionizers. 

If you’re considering the purchase of a water ionizer you are making a wise choice!

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In the following videos and chart I am comparing the Athena and Melody water ionizers. These water ionizers are both Jupiter water ionizers.

Jupiter is a well-known brand name for medical-grade water ionizers that you can trust for their quality and dependability.

The Jupiter Athena water ionizer is the high-end Jupiter model which has DARC cleaning [best internal self-cleaning of all of the water ionizers], mesh plates and dual filtration, and sells for $2095.00 verses the Melody water ionizer [the moderately priced Jupiter water ionizer, which cleans itself great, is electro-plated [solid plates which are platinum-coated with peaks and groves for greater surface area for better electrolysis], and sells for $1395.00]. The Melody often comes very close in water ionizer  comparison tests, so I think it’s a great choice for anyone on a budget. The Lifetime Warranty makes either of these water ionizers an even sweeter deal!

Athena vs Melody Water Ionizer Comparisons

Here’s my analysis: It looks like the Athena beats the Melody in every level for rH [water drinking healthiness per level of pH], but the Melody is testing very good.  They are both producing very healthy water! I don’t think you could go wrong with purchacing either of these water ionizers.

The healthiness of the water is measured a few ways. I’ll explain:

The aging body tends to become more and more acidic as life goes on [especially if we eat junk food or have an acidic diet over a period of years]. For this reason, we need water which is alkaline, so we can replenish our buffers to ward against the tendancy toward acidity. Otherwise our cells have no way of getting rid of their toxins. So pH is a factor in the healthiness of water.

• Water ionizers produce a high alkaline pH. Even the water ionizer I purchased 17 years ago produced a nice high pH. Of course you don’t need the extremely high pH [that some water ionizers produce] for drinking purposes. Drinking water at a moderately high pH can help alkalize your body and get rid of the acidic wastes that have built up in your cells. 
• Oxidation is also a factor in the health of one’s body. Like a cut apple that turns brown, our cells tend to become over oxidized. I don’t know if the cells turn brown or not, but damage of one kind or another [commonly referred to as free-radical damage] happens when the cells are oxidized. To combat the body’s tendancy toward free-radical damage, theoretically, one would consume antioxidants. A way to test the antioxidant quality of a liquid is to measure its ORP [Oxidation Reduction Potential]. The more negative the ORP, the better. Any ORP with a greater negativity than -300 is considered “medical grade” ORP.
• • My personal experience with drinking water that has a high negative ORP [between -300 and -600] is that things like wrinkles and spider veins reduce when you drink water that has a higher negative ORP. I’m sure that the ORP is good for other things as well; basically anything that you would take antioxidants for would benefit from the consumption of water with a high negative ORP. 
• The rH [relative Hydrogen] of a solution is based on a formula applied to the pH and ORP to arrive at the relation between the level of ORP to the level of pH. It is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water. I always consider the rH to be the most important measure to look at in any water ionizer comparison test.
  • Here’s an example: if you have two water ionizers producing water at a pH of 9.5, and one has an ORP of -300 and the other has an ORP of -400, then the one with -400 is producing water at a healthier overall quality. Most people testing water ionizers don’t get the exact same pH readings for all the water ionizers tested. So the rH formula is necessary to really see which water ionizer is producing the healthier water. The formula is a very simple one, and anyone comparing water ionizers should look at the rH of the water at the drinking water levels if they are trying to figure out which water ionizer is best. Because ORP is a very tricky measure to get and ORP meters can vary from test to test [depending on how well or frequently they're cleaned, source water and other factors] it’s important to only compare the ORP or rH of water ionizers tested in one setting by the same tester. RH is measured on a scale of 0 to 42, with 0 being the healthiest and 42 the unhealthiest. Tap water in St. Louis is usually around 30 – 35 rH. Any water under 28 rH is considered “reducing” and so is healthy for you.
  • “The relative hydrogen scale was first proposed by Clark in 1923 to the scientific community (mostly inorganic chemists) as a means of measuring the true reducing power of hydrogen present in an aqueous solution…”*  Go to this website to see this article and get a more thorough and scientific explanation of rH: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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Coming Soon! The New Jupiter Water Ionizer Lifetime Warrantee! Starts August 15, 2009!!!

I just found out that as of August 15th the Jupiter water ionizers will come standard with a LIFETIME WARRANTY! This is the best news I think I’ve had all year! Wow!!! This is big NEWS!!!

Let me explain why I think the Jupiter water ionizer company is able to do this:

• The Jupiter Water Ionizer manufacturing and design company has been around for ages. It is the oldest existing company for making water ionizers. They have mastered the technology of making water ionizers, and do it very well. Their water ionizers are top-line work-horse water ionizers. The internal cleaning systems are triple good, because they reverse the polarity of the water cell with each use [in the Melody water ionizer] and every 15 seconds of use [in the Aquarius, Orion and Athena water ionizers], while at the same time you are never inconvenienced by having to wait while your water ionizer is doing an acid wash cycle.
• Most water ionizers are designed to last for over 20 years. I’ve had my original Ange water ionizer for 17 years and it still ionizes water like a charm! It’s never even needed repair. I’m guessing that the Jupiter company has enough experience with very few returns, repairs, etc. over the many years that they have it calculated to not be too much of a risk to them to offer this.
• The main reason why a water ionizer might break down is due to hard water damage. Jupiter is making it clear with this new lifetime warrantee that you, the consumer, are expected to take measures to prevent hard water damage. I recommend a simple magnetic natural hard water solution gadget which is called the Ionizer Armor. It will last indefinitely and is only $82,00. Even if you already have hard water scaling inside your water ionizer this Ionizer Armor will de-scale it!!! By the way magnets are a great and natural solution to hard water problems, and I recommend them for whole house water softening as well! Magnets are a much cheaper and HEALTHIER solution to your hard water problems! Beyond this, if you were to see signs of hard water scaling on your spout for instance…you would be expected to get a scale-block prefilter to prevent this. Those are very reasonable expectations, and only benefit you, the water ionizer consumer, because scaling reduces your pH and ORP over time…and good maintenance ensures you have the best ionized water always.
• Another big reason a water ionizer might break down is because of being dropped or otherwise abused by the customer. The warrantee does not cover this kind of damage.
• Of course another reason they are doing this, I’m sure, is to dominate the water ionizer sales market…and sell more water ionizers! The length of warrantee is certainly an issue for anyone wanting to make a big purchase like a water ionizer.

This lifetime warranty covers parts and labor for a full 5 years. Then after 5 years it covers parts forever and limited labor forever. Specifically, if the labor were to exceed $195.00, they would cover the excess for any given repair job. If at the time of the repair there were no available parts, due to the model no longer being made, they reserve the right to replace your water ionizer with a comparible one. Rest assured on this, the Jupiter company wants to keep all of their customers happy. IonLife right now has an A+ BBB rating, so I don’t anticipate any tricks related to warranty issues from them.

So that’s the big news of today, and I just couldn’t be more excited! The new warranty does not apply to water ionizers purchased before August 15th. If you purchased your water ionizer prior to this date, don’t be too sad. Your Jupiter water ionizer will probably never need repair anyway…especially if you properly care for it [see above].

If you want to pre-order a Jupiter Melody water ionizer or any other Jupiter water ionizer [order to be placed on the 15th] let me know. I have a special surprise for anyone pre-ordering their Jupiter water ionzer between now and August 13th! You’ll find out what it is when you call [1-888-420-1420].

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How do the Water Ionizer Plates Compare with Each Other and Why Would You Compare Plates?

I stated in my last post: ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, what do the plates [platinum coated titanium electrodes] have to do with this?  

There is a lot of wonder and even confusion about the differences among water ionizers in their design, size and manufacturing processes used in making their platinum/titanium electrode plates [which some people call the "heart" of every water ionizer]. Are they all safe? Yes — the ones I sell are all safe; I’ve checked them all out. Are they all as good as each other? No. Some are better, but it truly is hard to say which is better. I see the problem. Many people are claiming that a bigger plate size or more coatings and bakings of platinum are better. the bottom line is that you WILL ultimately see how good each company’s design is when you go to test them. I honestly believe all of the plate designs are good, because these water ionizers are giving great pH and ORP. Don’t believe scare tactics that the plates are coated with platinum then cut. This is not the case. They are all cut, slotted or meshed prior to coating with platinum. They all follow safety guidelines for water filtration and ionization in other words. So, don’t worry about that. 

This blog post is devoted to describing the plate design for each of the major water ionizers. I have provided pictures wherever I had them available. If I get more pics in the future, I’ll add them then. I’m not claiming that any plate design is better, though, because they all look good, and all of these particular water ionizers get good pH and ORP for healthy, healing alkaline ionized water.

Chanson: Chanson plates are made of titanium and dipped twice and then sent to an oven for three separate times. They are each time nano plated, which means the platinum is broken down into smaller particles before plated. The end product is a far denser platinum coating than many other water ionizers. Chanson claims their plates hold up very well in hard water areas. Chanson also uses a process called fritting. Fritting creates a larger surface area for greater electrolysis. This is a picture of a microscopic section of a fritted Chanson electrode plate:

Life: Life water ionizers have a mesh plate on each end of the row of 5 solid plates [3"x5"]. Their mesh plates have a very large surface area, without compromising the quality and strength of the titanium. In other words they’re still solid enough to last far longer than I’m sure they even need to. They are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating of a minimum .25mm thickness. Life water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty. Life mesh plates are pictured below as the plate above the Tyent mesh plate.

Tyent: Tyent water ionizers have huge plates, possibly the largest plate size of all other water ionizers…even Enagic. The Tyent plate is pictured above under the Life mesh plate. The plates are placed at cross angles to each other to make a mesh as in the 2nd figure. Tyent’s electrode plates are slotted, then placed in such a way that a cross mesh is created when all plates are together in the water cell. A membrane is placed between each plate for proper spacing and to ensure that the two plates do not touch for superior ionization. The titanium slotted plates are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating. Tyent water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty.

Jupiter: The Athena has 5 mesh plates [3"x5"], and the Melody has 5 solid plates [3"x5"] with padding placed between for superior electrolysis. The plates are electro-coated by little machine-bots spraying the plates with electronically programmed-in peaks and valleys of platinum on the pre-cut mesh or solid plates prior to baking. This gives an even greater surface area and better electrolysis than what is possible with dipping.

KYK: KYK water ionizers are made with oversized cutting edge slotted titanium electrode plates which are dipped and baked for a superior coating.

Enagic: Enagic representatives boast of having the largest plate size of all. It seems they are mistaken, however… they do have very large plates. The plates are coated and baked properly with platinum coating. They claim the smooth plating process causes less hard water build-up of calcium attaching to the plates. That may or may not be the case, but if you get an Ionizer Armor  you shouldn’t have this problem anyway. I don’t have a pic of the plates, but am picturing the large water cell here:

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Water Ionizer Certifications: What is the ISO Certification of Water Ionizers All About?

On most water ionizer comparison charts you’ll see the term “ISO 9001″ or “ISO 14000″. What this is all about is safety and quality for you, the consumer, the worker, and the world. I’ll explain.

ISO is the icon for the International Organization for Standardization, which is the world’s largest developer and publisher of international standards for manufacturers. It has a presense in 161 countries and is chaired by participants in both the governments of those countries and the industry representatives. The purpose of ISO is to develop and encourage standards to protect consumers, workers and the environment.

What’s the difference between ISO 9001 and ISO 140001?

ISO 9001 refers to a family of standards addressing the quality of management in a water ionizer or any other manufacturing facility. The quality of management affects many things related to the water ionizers you purchase: the quality of the water ionizers match the claims made, enhanced customer satisfaction and continual improvement of the water ionizer design and production.

ISO 14001 refers to the environment. The goal with this certification is to minimize the harmful effects on the environment caused by the production of water ionizers or any product.

Both of these certifications are important to look for in your water ionizer purchase.

All Jupiter/Emco Tech, Tyent and Enagic water ionizers have both of these certifications. Life, KYK and Chanson have the ISO 9001 certification.

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