Is the Enagic $3800. Water Ionizer the best water ionizer there is?

No. There are many comparible water ionizers [such as the Jupiter Melody as you can see in the demonstrations in this article] and some that are better than the Enagic Kangen water [such as the Athena and Tyent Turbo as you can see in previous demonstrations], so No, Enagic is not the best there is. It’s a good, even great, water ionizer though, so I have no intention to down-grade it. However, I have tested and used these, and many other water ionizers, for years, and that’s why I simply know. I know the truth of the ionizers compared, and so when I hear stories from MLMers that the Enagic water ionizer is like no other or better than all others I will know there is a lie somewhere. I always ask, “in what way is the Enagic claimed to be better?” The answers I have heard are amazing to me, because they are based on hear-say only. One MLMer tells their downline, and they tell their downline, and they tell everyone they see. When asked for specifics, I’ll hear things like “better ORP” or “the ORP lasts longer”. I’ve actually tested and used these water ionizers, and though I would consider the Jupiter Melody a little bit less quality ORP than the Enagic, they are very close as you can see compared here.

Which water ioizer will hold its ORP the longest?

That is what I’m testing in today’s post. I have done a series of water ionizer comparisons which you can see below [the videos, charts and summaries for each set of tests]. I tested the ionized water immediately after pouring it as “Enagic-Melody-Comparison-1″. Then after an hour and 13 min. I tested all levels again [Enagic-Melody-Comparison-2]. Then continued to test at intervals and you can see for yourself that the ORP dropped at the same rate [I mean identical] for each water ionizer.

Another important piece of information you can learn from this post is …

How long will ionized water stay ionized?

This is a great question, and the answer is that the pH will last for a pretty long time [if sealed in a good container], but even sealed in the best container, the ORP will drop significantly after an hour at levels 1 and 2. It will drop significantly after 3 hours for levels 3 and 4. Therefore, my advice to anyone is to try to drink your ionized water fresh. The idea of storing it for days is fine if that’s all you can do, but I really, strongly advise you to just bite the bullet and buy your own water ionizer.

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-1
Test 1: Tested Immediately After Pouring
Timestamp: 5:48 PM 11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

10.1/-404

9.8/-339

Level 2pH/ORP

11.1/-738

10.4/-653

Level 3pH/ORP

11.4/-797

10.8/-753

Level 4pH/ORP

11.4/-801

11.0/-779

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-2
Test 2: Tested 1 hr. 13 min. After Pouring
Timestamp: 7:01 PM  11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.5/-191

9.6/-185

Level 2pH/ORP

11/-250

10.4/-190

Level 3pH/ORP

11.2/-701

10.8/-624

Level 4pH/ORP

11.3/-735

11.0/-665

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-3
Test 3: Tested 3 hr. 33 min. After Pouring
Timestamp: 9:21 PM   11/17/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.5/-145

9.5/-137

Level 2pH/ORP

10.7/-156

10.3/-154

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-200

10.7/-161

Level 4pH/ORP

11.1/-200

10.9/-186

Acid

2.2

2.4

Enagic-Melody-Comparison-4
Test 4: Tested 15 hrs. After Pouring
Timestamp: 8:50 AM   11/18/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.7/-104

9.7/-96

Level 2pH/ORP

10.7/-106

10.3/-98

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-130

10.7/-104

Level 4pH/ORP

11.2/-139

10.9/-120

enagic-melody-after-24hrs
Test 5: Tested 24+ hrs. After Pouring
Timestamp: 8:17 PM   11/18/10
           

Enagic

Melody

Level 1pH/ORP

9.3/-80

9.5/-76

Level 2pH/ORP

10.6/-97

10.3/-70

Level 3pH/ORP

11.0/-102

10.7/-73

Level 4pH/ORP

11.1/-124

10.9/-90

 

How else do the Melody and Enagic compare? This is important to LOOK at, because you can literally buy 3 Melodies for the price of one Enagic! Melody water ionizers also have a lifetime warranty on parts [vs. Enagic's 5-year warranty], so take a look at the other comparisons. You can see that in many ways, the Melody is a better water ionizer than the Enagic, and in some ways the Enagic is better. But they are both great, reputable water ionizers from very good and trustworthy manufacturers.

  Melody LeveLukSD501

Price

$1,395.

$3,980

How many ways can you install it?

3 options: countertop with diverter from tap; undersink with kit; countertop with direct line

To tap with diverter only or you can buy an external flow control knob.

Warranty

Lifetime Warranty on all Parts! 5 year FULL labor & Lifetime Limited Labor. 

5 year
Parts & Labor

Satisfaction Guarantee

60 Day

None…3-Day Return if Unused…otherwise fees Apply

Shipping

Free

$18

Year Manuf. Established

1974

1976

Year Established in USA

1996

2004

Research Facility Location

Japan

Japan

Factory

Korea…Assembly-Line

Japan…Assembled by One Person (By Hand)

The manufacturer

28+ years …1986

7+ years …1988

Highly Certified…Including, ISO9001 & 14001, UL and CE

Highly Certified…Including, ISO9001 & 14001, UL and CE

Reno NV, New Fairfield CT, Edmonton Canada

Hermosa Beach, CA

Electrode Plate Information

5

7

Standard flat Plate

Standard flat Plate

Electroplating

Dipped

Emco Tech / Japan

Enagic / Japan

Cleaning System / frequency / convenience

Automatic Cleaning [No Waiting] When finished …each time used.

Simple Reverse Polarity / 30 seconds every 15 gals

Continuous cleaning: no cartridge needed

Must use cleaning cartridges 

Filtration Features

.1Micron / .01Micron

.1Micron

 

GAC, Super Carbon, with  Tourmaline

Carbon with Calcium Sulfite

 

Filter counter lets you know when to change filter

Must remember or estimate when filter needs changing.

 

$79 / $89

$145

Electrical Power

Transformer

Transformer

110w / .5amps

230w / 2.5amps

 
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Today I compared the Jupiter Melody water ionizer against the Enagic LeveLuk SD 501 water ionizer!

What great water ionizer comparison results I got… and I’m sharing these results here in this article.  I am somewhat surprized that the Jupiter Melody water ionizer compares so well, although I have tested the Melody water ionizer against the Enagic Kangen machine before and got good water ionizer comparitive results then. It is a nice surprize all over again that these two very popular water ionizers compare this closely, because of the extreme price difference. Below, the results show it was nearly a tie. Level 3 drinking level of ionized water was particularly tied. You could barely get that close even if you tested a water ionizer against itself. The acidic water capabilities of the Enagic are better, but there is chemical added which in my eyes is not needed [The Enagic is able to get a stronger acidic water partially due to the solution that is added during the strong acid setting.] Personally, I don’t see anything too shabby about the 3.0 pH the Melody was able to get all by itself without the chemical. Anything under 4 pH kills germs…it just kills them faster the lower the pH. All-in-all I am very impressed with the Melody water ionizer while at the same time not unimpressed with the Enagic Kangen machine. What I’ve found with my water ionizer testing is that several water ionizers will give you these great results…and I’m thankful that they do!

Both water ionizers are well-made and function without difficulty. Both waters are pleasant tasting, although the filtration of the Jupiter water ionizers is far superior to the out-of-date Enagic’s filtration. The Jupiter Melody water ionizer also has a better system of self-cleaning in that it reverses polarity every time you turn the water on [versus every so many liters]. This is why the Melody water ionizer stays so squeaky-clean year after year. I’ve seen a 5-year-old Melody beat a brand new KYK water ionizer one time in a test series being conducted by the KYK main importer at the time. Both of the water ionizers use fine, highest quality materials and have exceptional customer service [although the warranty for the Melody is far superior ...with a lifetime warranty on parts]. And…

The Melody Water Ionizer is only $1595.00!

I’ve included the 2-part video here so you can see the tests yourself, verify the results are recorded correctly and verify that I had the water flow rate the same for both water ionizers. I also included pictures showing that the pH meter was callibrated ahead of time and the St. Louis tap water was 9.3 pH and +203 ORP just prior to the testing. I’ve also constructed a chart showing all the levels of water ionizer comparison, below the videos.

 

 

10/26/10  Faster FlowEnagic/Melody-3 Enagic Kangen Water Jupiter Melody
Level 1pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

10.2 / -155 / 18.9 Tied

10.0 / -90 / 20.3 Tied Maybe a little better…because the pH is more drinkable for level 1

Level 2pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

10.6 / -500 / 11.2 Better

10.4 / -230 / 19.8

Level  3pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

11.1 / -800 / 2.2 Tied

10.8 / -780 /2.27 Better because the pH is more drinkable and ORP is almost the same.

Level  4

11.3 Better [for emulsifying oils]

11.0

Acid pH

2.0 Better [for killing germs faster]

3.0

 

This was part 2 of a series of water ionizer comparison tests that I am calling Water Ionizer Face-Off. So far I have compared…

Look for many more water ionizer comparisons, as part of Alkaline Water Plus’s Water Ionizer Face-Off Competition, coming soon!

PH Meter Callibrations:

7.0 PH Callibrated10.0 PH Callibration

St. Louis Tap Water:

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* Background… Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers: To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. You can’t always look at numbers and figure it out which one is the best ORP per unit of pH easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH 

 

 

 

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Alkaline Water Plus has a great water ionizer comparison competition planned for the next few weeks or months, which I am calling ”Water Ionizer Face-Off”. Water ionizers will compete with other water ionizers one-by-one. We’ll cycle through a variety of one-on-one water ionizer competitions so that each pair of water ionizers is eventually fully compared with each other. Hopefully the results will show a general idea of where each water ionizer stands in comparison with the others and this information will add to the general knowledge about these water ionizers. I won’t be testing water ionizers that I feel are poor in any way, which cuts out a lot of water ionizers. Just the fact that I’m including an ionizer in this competition means I think it’s a good and worthy water ionizer to begin with. 

Why do these water ionizer comparisons at all?

First of all, I think these water ionizer comparisons are necessary to real information to light and dispel myths, and there are many, regarding what makes a water ionizer a great one. Since I’ve been drinking and benefiting from ionized water for 18 years, I have unshakable knowledge about the benefits of drinking ionized water. My whole family has benefited right before my very eyes with a 5-plate water ionizer [which isn't even being made anymore....but is still working after all these years]. Since more recently [in the past few years] I’ve tried better water ionizers, I’m now sold on the health benefits of spending more to get the best water ionizer. However the best water ionizer is not the one that costs the most or has the biggest plates or most watts of power necessarily. There are many factors which go into the overall design and effectiveness of a water ionizer. I honestly think that the biggest factor in the success of a water ionizer is the overall engineering design of that water ionizer. I’m not swayed by myths though, because what I’m looking for is results. The overall design of a water ionizer can be actually tested to see the results, and that’s what I do and why I do it. The best water ionizer in my eyes is the one which will give you the best negative ORP per unit of pH [especially at the level I drink]. If two water ionizers are about the same in that respect, then I look at other things [such as filtration, self-cleaning system, warranty and appearance]…but that’s for another time. What I’m doing now is testing them for pH and ORP at their various levels and calculating the ORP per unit of pH. I’ve tested all of these water ionizers before, but am testing them again more slowly, and closely this time, looking at the quality of ionized water at each level.

Today is Day #1 of the Water Ionizer Face-Off Competition, and our water ionizer contestants are…

The Tyent Turbo vs. the Enagic LeveLuk SD 501 Water Ionizers!

Here are the videos for today’s water ionizer comparison face-off round between the Tyent Turbo and the Enagic SD 501, followed by a chart and commentary about the results.

 

Water Ionizer Face-Off: Tyent Turbo vs. Enagic Kangen Water

10/21/10 Turbo/Enagic1 Tyent Turbo Enagic
Level 1 pH/ORP/rH/Rating

8.8 /+150/ 29.27 Neither are good.

10.1 / -70/ 24.53  Neither are good.

Level 2

10.1 / -737 / 2.3 BETTER because the pH is more drinkable

11 / -809 /1.7

Level  3

10.8 / -800 /1.6 BETTER because the pH is more drinkable

11.2 / -822 /1.67

Level  4

11

11.5 Better for emulsifying oils

Acid

2.4

1.9 BETTER, but irrelevant. Both will equally kill germs.

Here are my comments about round one of the water ionizer face-off:

  • These results, above, are really close. Both of these water ionizers are strong and capable, as you can see, with the great ionization shown in the chart and video. But I’m going to call this in favor of the Tyent. The reason I’m saying Tyent wins, is that at Level 3 [Kangen water 9.5], which is the most popular level for drinking, both ORPs are fantastic, but the Tyent’s pH is more drinkable.
  • Also at Level 2 [another "most popular" drinking level] the Tyent has a lower, more drinkable, pH and a fantastic, negative ORP.
  • The acid water for both water ionizers is low enough to kill germs on contact. So even though the Enagic comes in better for acidity at their lowest acid level it is almost irrelevant. 2.4 pH kills on contact. You can’t kill germs any faster than that unless you’re going to kill them before you spray them with the acid water [joke].
  • Level 1 is not too good on either water ionizer.

There are more to water ionizers than just pH and ORP. ORP, however is very beneficial if you can get a high ORP per unit of pH. I have personally seen spider veins dissappear right before my very eyes when I switched to a better [high-ORP] water ionizer. For this reason I personally believe that ORP is a very important factor of ionized water and should be looked at in comparing water ionizers.

Background:

Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers: To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. You can’t always look at numbers and figure it out which one is the best ORP per unit of pH easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH

This picture shows the meters used were calibrated with 7.01 and 10.01 scientific calibration solution.

Water Ionizer Meter CalibrationWater Ionizer Face-Off Meter Calibration

St. Louis Tap Water… 9.4 pH and +530 ORP.

St. Louis Tap Water

 

 


 

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In my mind a water ionizer comparison website should be done by someone who isn’t biased, or who is as least biased as possible. Someone who has the capability and does sell a variety of brands is a good candidate. And, someone who knows what they’re talking about when it comes to all facets of water ionizers. Why? Because they don’t stand to profit by steering you away from any of the water ionizers they are comparing or reviewing.

One might think that an independent blog or review site that claimed or appeared to have nothing to gain from them sharing this information with you would be a better alternative. However, what I’ve found [and this is true...it's just the way it is] that no one does any kind of blog or review site for nothing. It just doesn’t happen. There is always an agenda, and it’s better for you if you know what their agenda is. Actually the person I trust the least is the one who I know is hiding something, or they’re acting like they’re doing all this work just out of the great goodness of their heart, so right up front I want to see if they clearly tell me who they are [especially if it appears they haven't divulged their agenda with their website].

Well what about website reviews…where the customer writes in how great they love their new ____ water ionizer? Again, this could all be staged, so I don’t completely trust reviews that are being placed on a website that is biased. Also, reviews in general are suspect.

Because I know a lot of the people doing the comparison sites [maybe not personally, I've seen their other websites and I know their agenda...most of them] I can see right through some of the trickery, and sometimes it’s just ignorance, however I’m sure the average person can’t possibly know whether or not to trust what any particular website claims.

I’ve gone through many water ionizer comparison and review sites, and have included all of the main ones here. The comments are just my honest impression of the trustworthiness or usefulness of the information on that website. If you feel I’ve not included one that’s a good one, please make a comment, below, and I’ll fix it. But I have done my best to select the main water ionizer comparison sites out there on the internet today and either expose them for who they are or just give you insight into their sites.

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons

This is my website. I would be amiss if I didn’t include my own water ionizer comparison site first. I really do try to give the straight facts [which I include on a huge chart], test all of these water ionizers myself and add extra useful insights into the better water ionizers out there.

http://www.ionizersreviewed.com

This is the trickiest water ionizer review site, owned & operated by Rob Gray. Rob is an affiliate of Tyent USA and KYK USA [used to be IonQuench], who are sister companies. Rob spends thousands of dollars every month to get his review site on the top advertized spot of Google. He pretends to be an independent review site, and hides the fact that he has something to gain by pushing Tyent and KYK [or before KYK, it was IonQuench]. His conclusions always favor Tyent first then KYK second. He focuses all of his comparisons on a few very old videos which I have analyzed and debunked on my “Compare Ionizers” page, above, long ago. The site is one of the four most contrived water ionizer comparison sites there are. He has no intention to give a real comparison of water ionizers, and it’s so devious the way he gives awards and prizes [for the benefit of unsuspecting customers who don't realize who he is] to brand new, untested water ionizers which are being sold by his affiliated companies. Then those companies turn around and make their claims of how they are obviously the best [based on the awards they received from Rob Gray's site]. It is a circle of deception…so avoid this site.

http://www.waterionizerreviews.org/category/compare

This is another one of the four most devious water ionizer review sites. It is owned by Earth Trade Water [the parent company to the Life Water Ionizer company]…who owns three [or maybe more] water ionizer review sites…all pretending to be independent. At the bottom of the site, they say they are Earth Trade Water, but most people don’t know that Earth Trade Water is the Life Ionizers Company. The phony comparisons are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerexpert.com/store/how-to-buy-ionizer

Here is the second water ionizer review site owned by Earth Trade Water [AKA… Life Ionizers]. The site is too biased and inaccurate [out-of-date] to be of much value. Just like the site, above, the phony comparisons in this site are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerreviews.org/category/compare

This is the third water ionizer review site which is owned by Earth Trade Water [the parent company to the Life Water Ionizer company]. The phony comparisons are strewn with false information, and I advise to not trust any statements made by this company.

http://www.waterionizerauthority.com

This is a water ionizer store and water ionizer comparison site, similar to Alkaline Water Plus. The owner, Romi Sink, obviously prefers the Tyent water ionizer to all others, but she appears to do this for simple honest reasons [i.e., she likes them best]. She likes the appearance. She likes the features, plates and power. She likes the slim design. She has good things to say about all of the water ionizers she sells though. The only ionizers she won’t sell are the Life Ionizers [and I can totally understand that and agree with that]. Romi doesn’t test and compare publicly like I do, and she doesn’t get into the science of it [i.e., water filtration issues and comparing the quality of ionization itself in the water ionizers]. She focuses on size and wattage [things like that] in doing her comparisons. She doesn’t show all the Jupiter and Enagic certifications, and so a customer would get the idea looking at her site that the Tyent had the most certifications [when that’s not the case]. She also doesn’t give the most up-to-date facts about the Jupiter models. So it’s clear she does not prefer Jupiter. [Also Note: Customers who order water ionizers from Romi will not get as good of a trial period as they could get with Alkaline Water Plus.] However, as a review site, she is not devious and doesn’t try to trick you, so I consider her site to be a pretty good one.

http://www.healingwatermachines.com/information/ionizer_reviews.php

This is an older review site and isn’t up-to-date. It’s done by the same people who own Chanson USA. The site is too out of date to be of much use.

http://www.chansonalkalinewater.com/water_ionizers_reviews.php

This is an older review site and isn’t up-to-date. It’s done by the same people who own Chanson USA. The site is too out of date to be of much use.

http://www.ionizerscompared.com

This comparison site is clearly pushing the Jupiter water ionizers. They appear to only sell Jupiter [as a company], so they have that as their agenda. The information is not updated for the Tyent and Life companies. The site is too biased and inaccurate [out-of-date] to be of much value.

http://www.ionizers.org/othermodels.html

This is a comparison site that is owned by the US importers for Jupiter water ionizers. It is out of date and clearly pushing their own products.

There is a way to know…

If the website you are viewing is actually an objective third party or another water ionizer company deceptively promoting their own products. Check out who owns the website. Most of them are listed here in this article with their owners. If you find a new website that is claiming to be objective, you can email me or you can find out who owns a website yourself by searching for them on the various “who-is” websites put out by the website hosting companies. Just type “who-is” in the search box and pick a site. Then search for the owner of that url by copying & pasting the url into their who-is search box. Please look for a real person’s name. Often a website is registered through an LLC or a third party, that is not a good sign. It probably means they are hiding something. An objective reviewer in my eyes will be one who clearly identifies to you who they are. 

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Both the Athena Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer are two of my favorite water ionizers for many reasons.  But in this post I’m going to focus only on testing and comparing these two great water ionizers. I have compared them both in the past, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any water ionizer comparison testing. In the meantime my testing skills have gotten better as well as my overall knowledge, so when I had the opportunity to test these two great water ionizers up against each other today I took it.

The Athena and Melody Water Ionizer Thoroughly Tested in Every Way

To thoroughly compare the Melody water ionizer with the Athena water ionizer, I’ve done two complete sets of testing at every level: lowest acid level, plus levels 1, 2, 3, and 4. To see all of the testing, watch the following three water ionizer comparison videos, below, then read the charts and analysis that follows.

 

 

How to Compare Water Ionizer Testing Results:

There are two ways you can look at water ionizer comparisons. You can either just look at the numbers, and reason out which is the better water or you can apply a scientific formula to it to actually compare the two ionizers more scientifically. First I’m going to show you just how to look at the numbers and compare them. I’ll coach you through this:

Look at Level 3 for Test 1, below. See how the pH is 11 for both ionizers? Also notice that the ORP is hugely more negative for the Athena. That means that per level of pH the Athena is producing more ORP.

If you do further investigation you’ll see that the Athena is the better water ionizer for Levels 3 and 4 [the levels people usually drink at], while the Melody is better for Level 1. Level 2 is a draw.

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 1

Level Melody Athena
1 9.4/-383A little better 10.2/-422 
2 10.7/-460  10.4/-464

A little better

3 11/-497  11/-670

Far better

4 11.1/-463  11.1/-733

Far better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 2

Level Melody Athena
1 7.8/-263

Better

9.2/-260 
2 10.5/-478

Better

10.1/-373 
3 10.9/-610  10.9/-631

Better

4 11.1/-649  11.1/-706

Better

Acid 2.9

A little better

3.0

Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers:

To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. So many people would look at numbers, like the Test 1, Level 1 results, above, and say that 10.2/-422 was better. When in fact, the 9.4/-383 is really a little better. You just can’t look at those particular numbers and figure it out easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. 

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH

On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

Both water ionizers give you healthy water and perform well. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. The Athena is better at levels 3 and 4, which are the levels people mostly drink at, so the Athena is worth the extra money [in my opinion].

Normal tap water is the reverse, it’s oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing.  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

I have calculated the rH of all test results, above, and show them in the following chart. The smaller the number [closer to zero] the better.  Anything below an rH of 10 is a fantastic result. Actually anything under an rH of 20 is very good. Take a look at what happens with the Athena results right around Level 3. The rH makes a significant leap in value [almost double]. That’s why I like to drink my ionized water from the Athena at Level 3. At first I just intuitively liked the water best at that level, but after scientifically analyzing it I can see the rH score is so much better too.

Level Melody Athena
1:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

13.5

13

15.4

2:  1st Test    

2nd Test

12.7

11.7

121

4.4

3:  1st Test    

2nd Test

10.1

8.1

6.3

7.4

4:  1st Test    

2nd Test

13.5

7.2

-2.2

5.3

Both ionizers perform well though. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. Normal tap water is oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing [including mountain spring water].  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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I have completed some more good water ionizer comparisons, which I want to share. In my last set of water ionizer comparisons I found that the IonQuench was actually testing better than the Genesis Platinum. This is significant, because the IonQuench is selling for less money and has a longer warranty period too. So that’s the reason I chose the IonQuench to compare with these other two water ionizers. [The IonQuench is an upgraded version of the KYK Genesis water ionizer].

The testing, below, shows that both the Orion and Tyent Turbo are better than the IonQuench. That’s not surprising, because the Orion and Tyent water ionizers are both more expensive than the IonQuench water ionizer.

Comparing the Jupiter Orion, IonQuench and Tyent Turbo Water Ionizers

I’ve included all the You Tube videos, below, along with the following chart. Basically the IonQuench was tested twice [once with the Orion and once with the Tyent]. Water ionizer testing contains so many variables that you can see the differences even in the results of the IonQuench the first time and the IonQuench the second time. That’s why I think it’s important to test often and in a variety of circumstances [or look at a variety of tests] before making a final judgement on which ionizer tests the best. Here is the chart, followed by the videos, for all of the water ionizer comparisons in this series.

Water Ionizerà 

Jupiter Orion

PH/ORP

Ionquench

PH/ORP

Tyent Turbo

PH/ORP

Level 1 Testing 

9.1/-120

8.6/+90 & 8.9/-108

9.0/+73

Level 2 Testing 

9.4/-390

9.1/-180 & 10.0/-220

9.7/-325

Level 3 Testing 

10.6/-780

9.1/-180 & 10.5/-770

10.0/-764

Level 4 Testing

11.1/-802

11/-791 & 10.7/-792

10.9/-797

Acidic Water

2.7

3.4 & 3.3

2.4

 

 

 

 

 

There are a lot more things to consider when buying a water ionizer than just comparing the pH and ORP of the water ionizers. There’s quality of filtration, internal plate-cleaning, construction and sturdiness of the water ionizer, warranty, longevity of the company, certifications for good design and construction of the ionizer, BBB ratings, price, appearance and other features. Where I could, I included other comparisons in the following chart.

Water Ionizerà 

Jupiter Orion

Ionquench

Tyent Turbo

Filtration

Best

Best [Tied]

2nd

Plate Cleaning

Best

2nd

3rd

Sturdy Design

Best

3rd

2nd

Warranty 

2nd

3rd

Best

Ease of Use 

Best

2nd Tied

2nd Tied

Ease of Set-up 

Best

3rd

2nd

Certifications and Validations 

Best

2nd Tied

2nd Tied

BBB Rating 

A+

Not Listed

A-

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Comparison Testing of the Genesis Platinum and IonQuench Water Ionizers

I wanted to test the IonQuench water ionizer against the Genesis Platinum water ionizer, because even though both water ionizers are made by the same manufacturer [EOS in Korea] and they are both the newest upgrade of the KYK water ionizer I wasn’t sure if they would test out the same. There was some talk about the Genesis Platinum having more watts, and that could make a difference, so I wanted to see if it did. The bottom line is that actually the IonQuench did better than the Genesis Platinum in this series of tests. The IonQuench also has a 7-year warranty [verses the Genesis Platinum water ionizer's 5-year warranty], so I am pretty confident that the IonQuench water ionizer is the better choice between the two.

Below, I have included videos and charts for every level of water ionizer testing.

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 1

 

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 2

 

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 3

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 4

Water Ionizer Comparison Testing Results

Water Ionizer à

IonQuench

Platinum

Level 1… pH/ORP

8.6/-222

8.9/-192

Level 2… pH/ORP

9.1/-258

8.9/-196

Level 3… pH/ORP

Level 3 Acid

10.1/-359

3.2 acid

10.3/-280

3.2 acid

Level 4… pH/ORP

Level 4 Acid

10.9/-409

2.8 acid

10.9/-354

2.5 acid

All-in-all I’m pretty surprised that the IonQuench did better than the Genesis Platinum water ionizer. After hearing claims that the Platinum was better I was expecting to see far better results with the Platinum water ionizer.

Programming the IonQuench and Genesis Platinum Water Ionizers

Before the testing, above, I programmed both water ionizers to be at exactly the same levels. For anyone wishing to do their own programming of their IonQuench or Genesis Platinum, you should read the directions that come with your water ionizer. However the instructions are too brief and at times unclear, so watching this following video may help to clarify some of the more confusing points in the programming instructions.

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Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer

ATHENA & ORION WATER IONIZERS

I just finished testing and comparing the Jupiter Orion water ionizer against my own water ionizer, the Athena water ionizer. Both water ionizers are made by the same manufacturer, Jupiter water ionizers, but they have a $300. difference in price. I always assumed that the Athena was the best, so I guess I skipped right over the Orion water ionizer and its fraternal twin, the Aquarius water ionizer [the Orion and Aquarius water ionizers are exactly the same on the inside, but look different on the outside], in doing all my comparing and analyzing of water ionizers.

The bottom line is the Orion water ionizer tests equal to the Athena water ionizer!

The following two videos and charts show the testing and comparing of water ionizers that I did. I was very impressed with the Orion in appearance and performance. It’s a great selection for anyone looking for the best performing water ionizers.

 

Comparing Athena and Orion Water Ionizers

Water Ionizer –>

Athena

Orion

Level 1… pH/ORP

9.6/-182

8.1/-154

Level 2… pH/ORP

10.4/-630

10.5/-450

Level 3… pH/ORP

Level 3 Acid

10.8/-805

2.9

10.9/-770

3.1

Level 4… pH/ORP

Level 4 Acid

11.2/-813

2.7

11.2/-810

2.8

According to the results of the testing, there is very little variation in pH and ORP from one ionizer to the other. This is exactly as I had predicted, because they are virtually the same water ionizer except for the flow control knob and the extra filter in the Athena water ionizer.

Another thing that impressed me with the Orion water ionizer was the sheer beauty of it. I’m not sure if this comes across well in picture or video format, but in real life…the Orion’s beauty is impressive.  Both the Athena and Orion water ionizers are also fantastic in their internal cleaning of the plates. Everything is done behind the scenes with their patented DARC cleaning system, making these water ionizers the easiest water ionizers to use. The Jupiter water ionizer company did a great job with the design and aesthetics of these two great water ionizers.

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ORP stands for oxidation reduction potential. A water ionizer produces drinking water that is both good for you pH-wise [alkaline] and is good for you oxidation-wize [antioxidizes]. Many scientists in the field of water ionization are now saying [although both are very important] that…

the ORP of the ionized water is even more important in preventing diseases than the pH!

PH: People are very sensitive to pH and blood plasma, for instance, cannot exceed a very narrow range of 7.2 – 7.4 [healthiest at 7.365]. This is why balancing your body pH is so important! Your body will shut down digestion, alter temperature, and rob your bones of calcium to make sure the blood stays in this narrow range. Of course it does this, because the alternative is death. Anything that has the ability to bind with acids and neutralize them is called an alkaline buffer. You help your body tremendously by providing plenty of alkaline buffers [i.e. alkaline ionized water]!

ORP: All liquids have an Oxidation Reduction Potential [ORP]. This is the potential of that liquid to reduce/stop/slow-down oxidation. Oxidation can be seen when you cut an apple in half and leave it open to the air. The oxygen in the air reacts with the apple and oxidizes it [removes a negatively charged electron from it], turning it brown. If you set that apple into a solution with a negative ORP [in other words, a solution with a high antioxidant potential], it wouldn’t turn brown. Put some lemon juice on a cut apple. Lemon juice is full of antioxidants. See how it can stay white for days! Oxidation happening in your body [also can be called "free radical damage"] can be slowed down by adding lots of antioxidants. Only a negative ORP can reduce oxidation. ORP can be measured. Most water [tap & bottled alike] is measured at a positive ORP [+150 to +400]. A water ionizer will take that water, ionize it, and in the process add so many negatively charged electrons that it reduces the ORP to the negative range of -150 to -700 or so [depending on the level of your ionized water]. In other words it makes it contain a fantastic number of natural, easily absorbable antioxidants. Any liquid containing a negative ORP greater than -300 is considered a beneficial substance for your health. You can expect to have better resistance to infection, increased strength and energy, and be younger looking if you drink alkaline ionized water with a -300 or stronger ORP. The ORP of a liquid can be measured with an ORP meter.

Should every water ionizer owner get their own ORP meter?

Heck no! They are expensive and hard to maintain. The pH drops that come with your water ionizer are actually a much more reliable tool to use in measuring if your water ionizer is still ionizing well. Once your water ionizer has been designed and engineered, the ratio of pH to ORP ratio is pretty well set. The stronger the ORP of your ionized water per unit of pH, the healthier that ionized water is for your body. It is a test of the design and quality of the water ionizer to get a stronger [more negative] ORP per unit of pH. If your water ionizer has been tested for ORP levels, and it’s good at first, will probably remain good as long as your electrodes stay clean. You can test for electrode cleanliness by testing your pH at certain levels [i.e. lowest acid, highest alkaline, and level 3 drinking level].  You don’t need to constantly check your water ionizer’s ORP. You can do these pH tests every month [for instance] and record your results. If you start noticing the pH falling over time, then you can also safely assume your ORP is also falling, and it’s time to clean your water ionizer [&/or get an EOS device].

The reason I use both pH and ORP meters is in comparing water ionizers with each other. I do a LOT of comparing water ionizers! If one water ionizer at pH 9.5 gives an ORP of -400 and another at pH 9.5 gives an ORP of -350, then the second one is not as good as the first. I also compare the quality of water storage containers. If after several hours or a day the ORP has dropped more than the pH using one container vs another I will know that container is worse for storing ionized water. I do a lot of testing to see how long ionized water can be stored and still maintain the pH and ORP benefits. One thing I’ve learned from my many tests is that ORP drops more quickly than the pH toward neutral. [Note on water storage: Both pH and ORP drop toward neutral constantly, so for maximum benefits try not to store your ionized water for more hours than you need to. Eight hours is fine, but after 2-3 days your ionized water has dropped pretty close to neutral.]

If you want your own ORP meter, you should know how to clean and maintain it!

For anyone who wishes to have and use their own ORP meter you must know some general principles of how to clean and maintain an ORP meter! Without this understanding, your very expensive ORP meter will be worth exactly $0.00 to you in about a month [or less] after purchasing it. In the following video, we’ll take a look at a couple of ORP meters, and some of the ways that you can clean an ORP meter. Here are some of the ways mentioned in the video:

  • Keep the probe from drying out
  • Keep the probe in a very low pH [acidic] solution in between uses
  • Most ORP meters have a cap that comes with the probe and you can fill the cap with the low acid solution before placing the probe into the cap. Store it in such a way that your liquid doesn’t drain out.
  • If your probe dries out between testing, get ready for some heavy-duty cleaning [watch video for this]
  • Use a dedicated toothbrush for light scrubbing of the probe
  • Use a very, very fine sand paper [such as 220 grit] to get the scale off the probe. Do this only as needed and very lightly.
  • Be ready to continue to store your probe in the low acid solution for days [then do repeat cleaning] as shown on the video…until your meter is restored to its correct operation range. Here’s the video:

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