Chanson Miracle-Max Water Ionizer

It was a pleasure testing and comparing the new Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer last week. The Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer, AKA M.A.X., is far better than the Chanson Miracle [regular] water ionizer and it’s only a little more expensive. At a reasonable cost of $1995. [limited introductory price], the purchase of the Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer is a lot of value for the price.

The manufacturer’s claim was that the M.A.X. could make both strong acid and alkaline water for anyone with ANY water source. The Chanson company claimed the Miracle Max water ionizer [with its huge electrode plates, totalling 364 sq. inches of electrode surface area] is as powerful as an 11-plate semi-commercial water ionizer and powerful enough to be used for disinfecting by doctors, hospitals, dentists, spas, vets, restaurants, the food industry, and home use.

After testing the Chanson Miracle-Max all of last week, I’m ready to say that…

The Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer is a great water ionizer and lives up to the manufacturer’s claims.

The following features are very good improvements over the other Chanson water ionizers:

  • The Chanson Miracle-Max has a flow control knob.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max has a large mineral port.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max is authorized to be used with Himalayan rock salt to boost its ionization for the extremes of high/low pH capability.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max is easy to program.

The following two videos show various testing and demonstrating of the new Chanson Miracle Max water ionizer.

 

 

 

Last week I also spent a little time comparing the Miracle Max water ionizer to the Jupiter Athena water ionizer as well. You can see the results, both in the videos and the chart, below. The Miracle Max water ionizer was programmed a bit on the high-side at every level. I do not encourage consumers to program their water ionizer up this high. It’s best to have a nice graduation from Level 1 to Level 4 that makes it an easy progression for your body to adjust to drinking alkaline ionized water. But, nevertheless, you can see in the water ionizer comparison videos and chart, below, what the Chanson Miracle-Max is capable of.

Miracle-Max vs. Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer Comparison

 

Chanson Miracle-Max Water Ionizer

Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer

Level 1   pH/ORP

10.0/-105

9.9/-92

Level 2   pH/ORP

11.2/-700

10.6/-210

Level 3    pH/ORP

11.3/-700

11.2/-800

Level 4    pH/ORP

11.5/-830

11.5/-833

Lowest Acid Water

2.3

2.3

The results of the water ionizer comparison between the Jupiter Athena and the Chanson Miracle Max are that both water ionizers are about equally capable of producing great ionized water. [Note: The Miracle Max, brand new, is being tested against a 2-year-old Athena water ionizer, but nonetheless they are both coming out great in this comparison.]

I feel very confident recommending the Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer as a great, high-powered water ionizer.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER!  Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year! 

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Here are some interesting water ionizer comparisons that were all done about a year or so ago by Ronnie Ruiz. I’m re-posting this article, because it needed updating and in addition to that it contains important information for anyone considering to purchase a water ionizer. Ronnie states in his introduction to the video series that all of the water ionizers come out very similar in their numbers [i.e., pH & ORP] and I believe that’s true, too, with my own testing and with the testing I see here in Ronnie’s videos. I also agree with Ronnie that not all water ionizer companies are tried-and-true. So, just because a water ionizer gets good results in pH and ORP that shouldn’t be the only test of a good water ionizer. If you look at the bottom of this post you can find out more about the different water ionizer companies. 

 

In the following three videos and chart you can see comparisons between the Melody, Chanson VS 70 and the Enagic water ionizers. These are all clearly good water ionizers — doing the job that water ionizers should do.

 
 

 Comparing the Melody, Enagic and VS70 Water Ionizers

 

PH

ORP

Acid

rH

Melody

10.78

-750

4.5

3.23 ..3RD

Enagic@3800.

11.33

-786

2.49

3.12 ..2ND

Vs70

10.23

-748

3.03

2.19 ..1ST

Though I’ve indicated a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the chart above, really these are all good water ionizer results. Keep in mind that the ionized water drinking levels are not being tested here. The rH [Relative Hydrogen: Indicator of drinking water quality] is almost too close to call. On a scale of 0 to 42, an rH closest to 0 is the best. In the case of this test series that puts the VS70 as having a better drinking quality of water than the Enagic, but really the Melody, Enagic and VS70 are all exceptional in their drinking water quality. 

You can also see that the low-acid pH is very close between the Enagic and the VS70. The Melody’s low-acid is perfect for beauty water or watering plants, but I don’t know if it would kill germs. The Enagic and VS70 low-acid water would kill germs. The only thing with the Enagic, though, is that to get that low acid, you need to continually supply your ionizer with saline solution. That gets expensive, but then the Enagic is expensive, comparatively, anyway.

Ultimately, the stability of a water ionizer company can be seen in its certifications:

Which Water Ionizer Company has what Certificates? Here’s all the info! [This informatiion is gathered from the water ionizer US main distributors' websites and I have no personal knowledge other than what they claim]

  • KFDA: Korea Food & Drug Administration [GMP standards & authorization to manufacture and sell medical devises]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent
  • Japanese Ministry of Health Authorization to manufacture & sell medical devises: Enagic
  • Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: KTR [Korea Testing & Research Institute] filters tested for results: Jupiter
  • Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: NSF [National Sanitation Foundation International certified the calcium used in filters as in compliance with standards]: Jupiter
  • ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 14001: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent, Enagic
  • ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 9001: All
  • CE [European Conformity]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Chanson, Tyent
  • NRTL/CSA [Canada]: KYK

Electrical Safety Certificates: 

  • UL-USA [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter, Tyent
  • UL-Canada [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter

Business Practices — Conformity to Standards:

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Water Ionizer News

Here is a just-posted video interview with Dr. Robert Young, author of pH Miracle books and a 30-year water ionizer researcher/guro, with Chanson Water Ionizer USA owner, Ronnie Ruiz.

 

 

Dr. Young used to only endorse the Jupiter water ionizers, mainly the Jupiter Melody. This is because he tested all of the water ionizers and felt that the Jupiter Melody gave you the best “water ionization for your buck”. He liked the way most of the Jupiter models were made [from the Melody water ionizer on up], and he liked their intenal cleaning systems [which are very important].

Dr. Young conducts research on water ionizers and their uses & effectiveness, so that he can help his clients. He does a lot of work with live blood analysis and he puts his clients on alkaline diets. Since he is considered by many to be a top water ionizer guru, his endorsement of a water ionizer is significant.

Now, since Dr. Young has seen and tested the Chanson Miracle water ionizer, he is impressed with this water ionizer’s ability to ionize water well, get an extremely high pH [of about 12 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely low pH [of under 2 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely high/low ORP [above +1000/below -1000], he is convinced that the Chanson Miracle water ionizer is a MIRACLE WATER IONIZER!

Back in November I did my own testing of the Chanson water ionizers and I was also happily impressed with them. Here is the blog post and video series of that testing: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/11/17/chanson-water-ionizers-vs-the-melody-water-ionizer/

A week ago Ronnie went to visit the Chanson factory in Taiwan. Here’s the video:

 

What really impressed Ronnie at the factory was they test every single feature of every single chanson water ionizer before it leaves the factory! They even test the pH and ORP to make sure that each water is performing at the exact level that it should. Correction Note: Ronnie states in this video that all other, or most or many water ionizer companies put calcium sulphite in their water filters. Actually the only major or popular [in the US] water ionizer filters that I know of with calcium sulphite [which is added as a preservative] in them are: Life water ionizers, Bion-tech, and Enagic water ionizers.

Here’s another video with Ronnie in Taiwan. He’s exploring the many stores in Taiwan where Chanson water ionizers [and other water ionizers] are sold. You can see that Chanson is a main water ionizer leader in Taiwan [where water ionizers are as common as toasters -- it seems]. Fifty percent of people in Japan and 40% of people in Korea have their own water ionizers.

 

Here’s another video Ronnie did, as a presentation of Chanson Water Ionizers at the Navel Expo. I’m including it here, because it’s a great video to watch to learn some basics about ionized water.

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I spent the morning at the Chanson water ionizer company testing the Chanson Miracle and Chanson VS 70 water ionizers against the Jupiter Melody water ionizer. Here are the videos:

 

 

In this 2nd video [above] you can also see a demo of the G2 Faucet!

 

 

Water Ionizer

 

 

PH

 

 

ORP

 

 

Comment

 

 

Melody Level 3

 

 

9.2

 

 

–440

 

 

Best @ Level 3 [Drinking]

 

 

Melody Level 4

 

 

9.2

 

 

-411

 

 

 

Miracle Level 3

 

 

9.4

 

 

-338

 

 

 

Miracle Level 4

 

 

10.1

 

 

-468

 

 

 

Miracle Low Acid

 

 

3.0

 

 

N/A

 

 

 

VS70 Level 3

 

 

9.3

 

 

-405

 

 

 

VS70 Level 4

 

 

10.4

 

 

-610

 

 

Best @ Level 4

[Strong Alkaline]

 

 

VS70 Low Acid

 

 

 

2.9

 

 

 

 

Best @ Low Acid

Also tested 2.73 with another meter

 

 

 

What are the conclusions? These are all three good water ionizers! I figured they’d all test out great. I already knew from watching Ronnie test the VS 70 that the Chanson acid water was going to test out so low. I’ve never seen the Miracle actually tested before, so this was nice to know that it gets such a great low-acid as well. A 3.0 acid level is fantastic in my eyes…and the other pH tester showed it down to about 2.7 on the VS70! At that low-acid level you could definitely kill germs. According to Nedalee the tests are in and the low-acid water from the Chanson water ionizers are killing staff and e-coli. The next test they’re going to do is for salmonella. 

I was very happy for the experience of going to the Chanson water ionizer company! The Chanson company is new to the US, but they’ve been making water ionizers for a long time in Taiwan. They are state-of-the-art water ionizers and the compact size is quite an advantage if space is an issue for you. These tiny water ionizers have 7 plates in them and the power gets up to 150w [which is as high as it needs to get.]

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Water Ionizers: Comparison of Plates

Jul 29 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

How do the Water Ionizer Plates Compare with Each Other and Why Would You Compare Plates?

I stated in my last post: ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, what do the plates [platinum coated titanium electrodes] have to do with this?  

There is a lot of wonder and even confusion about the differences among water ionizers in their design, size and manufacturing processes used in making their platinum/titanium electrode plates [which some people call the "heart" of every water ionizer]. Are they all safe? Yes — the ones I sell are all safe; I’ve checked them all out. Are they all as good as each other? No. Some are better, but it truly is hard to say which is better. I see the problem. Many people are claiming that a bigger plate size or more coatings and bakings of platinum are better. the bottom line is that you WILL ultimately see how good each company’s design is when you go to test them. I honestly believe all of the plate designs are good, because these water ionizers are giving great pH and ORP. Don’t believe scare tactics that the plates are coated with platinum then cut. This is not the case. They are all cut, slotted or meshed prior to coating with platinum. They all follow safety guidelines for water filtration and ionization in other words. So, don’t worry about that. 

This blog post is devoted to describing the plate design for each of the major water ionizers. I have provided pictures wherever I had them available. If I get more pics in the future, I’ll add them then. I’m not claiming that any plate design is better, though, because they all look good, and all of these particular water ionizers get good pH and ORP for healthy, healing alkaline ionized water.

Chanson: Chanson plates are made of titanium and dipped twice and then sent to an oven for three separate times. They are each time nano plated, which means the platinum is broken down into smaller particles before plated. The end product is a far denser platinum coating than many other water ionizers. Chanson claims their plates hold up very well in hard water areas. Chanson also uses a process called fritting. Fritting creates a larger surface area for greater electrolysis. This is a picture of a microscopic section of a fritted Chanson electrode plate:

Chanson Electrode Plates (Fritted)

Life: Life water ionizers have a mesh plate on each end of the row of 5 solid plates [3"x5"]. Their mesh plates have a very large surface area, without compromising the quality and strength of the titanium. In other words they’re still solid enough to last far longer than I’m sure they even need to. They are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating of a minimum .25mm thickness. Life water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty. Life mesh plates are pictured below as the plate above the Tyent mesh plate.

 Life and Tyent Mesh Plates

Tyent Mesh Plate

Tyent Slotted Plates Meshed

Tyent: Tyent water ionizers have huge plates, possibly the largest plate size of all other water ionizers…even Enagic. The Tyent plate is pictured above under the Life mesh plate. The plates are placed at cross angles to each other to make a mesh as in the 2nd figure. Tyent’s electrode plates are slotted, then placed in such a way that a cross mesh is created when all plates are together in the water cell. A membrane is placed between each plate for proper spacing and to ensure that the two plates do not touch for superior ionization. The titanium slotted plates are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating. Tyent water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty.

Jupiter: The Athena has 5 mesh plates [3"x5"], and the Melody has 5 solid plates [3"x5"] with padding placed between for superior electrolysis. The plates are electro-coated by little machine-bots spraying the plates with electronically programmed-in peaks and valleys of platinum on the pre-cut mesh or solid plates prior to baking. This gives an even greater surface area and better electrolysis than what is possible with dipping.

 Jupiter Athena Mesh Plates

KYK: KYK water ionizers are made with oversized cutting edge slotted titanium electrode plates which are dipped and baked for a superior coating.

Enagic: Enagic representatives boast of having the largest plate size of all. It seems they are mistaken, however… they do have very large plates. The plates are coated and baked properly with platinum coating. They claim the smooth plating process causes less hard water build-up of calcium attaching to the plates. That may or may not be the case, but if you get an Ionizer Armor  you shouldn’t have this problem anyway. I don’t have a pic of the plates, but am picturing the large water cell here:

Enagic Electrolysis Chamber

 

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Which is Better? The Chanson VS 70, The Tyent 7070 or the KYK Genesis 7 Plate? And Why?

Tyent 7070 Water Ionizer Silver      KYK Genesis Water Ionizer     Chanson VS 70 Faucet

Water Ionizers Pictured: The Tyent 7070, KYK Genesis 7 Plate & the The Chanson VS 70 

A customer came to me with a question today that was sure hard to answer! So, here’s my best stab at it.

I’ve tested the Tyent and KYK, so I know they both give really good ionized water…I’ve seen testing for the Chanson VS 70 which also looks good. These all look like great water ionizers…so which is best?

In this blog post I’ve provided information and my own analysis of the different strengths and features for each water ionizer. You will have to decide which water ionizer feature is most important to you and judge for yourself which water ionizer is best.  Based on the comparisons, below, you should be able to compare the features and strengths of these water ionizers with the features you think are most important to you — and make a decision that way. They’re all close and all HIGH QALITY, though, so I really don’t think you can go wrong with whichever one you decide. Hope this helps! 

Size: The Miracle and VS70 water ionizers are so small [if smaller is better to you the Miracle and VS 70 water ionizers would be the winners.] 

Cleaning:    ALL ABOUT EQUAL FOR CLEANING

One other thing that’s good to know with cleaning is, you can get an Ionizer Armor to go with any water ionizer to protect the inner cleanliness of your water ionizer so that helps to level the playing field with respect to self-cleaning.

KYK:  Automatic cleaning system – Does “acid-wash” cycle every 30 liters of use. Warns you when it’s washing. You need to continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle. Unit automatically stops water flow when wash is complete and resets it to Level 2.  Automatic draining system – drains water into the electrolysis chamber to enhance cleaning.

Tyent: Automatic acid wash every 5 – 10 min. of use. Warns you when it’s ready to wash. Automatically turns ionizer off when it’s ready for acid wash. You need to push button to start the acid wash and continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle.  

Chanson:  Cleaning frequency adjusted to your source water. Automatically occurs after you turn the machine off – never interrupting your water usage. Will automatically go into a flushing cycle each time you turn on your water ionizer.

 

Plates:   ALL CLOSE TO EQUAL FOR PLATES

KYK:  7 titanium plates slotted then dipped in expensive platinum and baked

Tyent: 7 large mesh plates. Boasts the largest mesh surface area [245 sq. in.] of all water ionizers. Plates are made of a strong titanium slotted mesh then dipped & baked 3 times for an extra thick platinum coating.

Chanson:  7 solid titanium plates are nano plated with platinum using a cutting edge technology which increases the surface area with peaks, valleys and grooves.

  

Filtration:    KYK WINS FOR FILTRATION!

KYK:  Dual filters with activated carbon and specialized media to filter out even more difficult contaminants like fluoride. [Filter Life = About 1600 Gallons]

Tyent:  Activated Carbon & ceramic plus an ACF Fibre filter. Removes chlorine, lead and other chemicals and adds back good minerals  [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons]

Chanson: Adjusts filter life according to your source water. [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons] These are Silver-adding Fiber Activated Carbon Filters (help with Lead reduction): remove lead ions from old pipes and silver-adding which is an anti-bacteria element.

 

Filter Change Indicator:     CHANSON WINS FOR FILTER CHANGE INDICATOR!

KYK: Automatically sensors — display when to change it.

Tyent: Voice [and LCD indicator] tells you when to change the filter.

Chanson: Filter Life is adjusted to source water, so you always know when it really needs to be changed. 

   

Price:    KYK WINS FOR PRICE! [...ALTHOUGH SO DOES THE MIRACLE]

KYK:  On sale now for $300. off [$1695.00] – Plus you receive over $200.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Tyent MMP 7070:  On sale now for $500. off [1995.00] Plus you receive over $600.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Chanson:  Miracle [countertop] $1650.00  &  VS-70 [under-sink] $2195.00

  

Power:     TURBO WINS FOR POWER!

KYK:  Variable amperage makes it possible to set your Genesis water ionizer for up to 76 pH/ORP levels. You can customize your pH and ORP to suite your source water. The power supply is SMPS [more advanced than transformers] to accommodate for the needs of the variable amperage.  [110V, 150W]

Tyent: PH adjustability and SMPS power allows for variable pH/ORP levels to accommodate for differences in source water. [110V, up to 235*W] Turbo option can be purchased for the highest wattages [235-285 W]

Chanson: Amperage adjusts automatically to keep alkaline levels consistent. [110V, 5W - 150W]

 

Water Flow Control:   KYK WINS FOR WATER FLOW CONTROL!

KYK:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization… and your water flow is displayed on the LCD monitor in liters/min.

Tyent:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization.

Chanson:  Flow automatically adjusted to 2.8 liters per minute

  

Installation:   CHANSON WINS FOR INSTALLATION!

KYK: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet and connectors if direct hook up to cold water line is preferred. There is no installation DVD that comes with the KYK. Computer chips and wires located on top of each filter makes the KYK filters very much harder to install and could be a weak point in the design. I believe that eventually a KYK water ionizer might stop working if the customer replaces their own filters every year and doesn’t have the technical expertise or manual dexterity to do it right. Here are pictures of the computer chips at the top of the KYK filters:

KYK-Filter-Chip-1KYK-Filter-Chip-2

KYK-Filter-Chip-3KYK-Filter-Chip-4

Tyent: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet [can also be hooked directly into the cold water line if desired]. People have had difficulty figuring out the technicalities of programming the Tyent to their source water, but have received excellent customer service and had their difficulties satisfied by the technical trouble-shooter at Tyent. There is a DVD for installing which is helpful — but it doesn’t come standard with every order. Make sure you request this DVD when ordering a Tyent.

Chanson:   Miracle [Chanson's 7-plate countertop model] comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet & VS 70 has its own beautiful faucet. The VS 70 will obviously be harder to install, because it’s an undersink model, however the Miracle is fairly easy. Chanson water ionizers come with installation CDs. You also get online videos you can watch ahead of time. The Chanson water ionizers get programmed to your source water hardness — so be ready with that information. You can get your water hardness level by calling the phone number on your water bill. There are videos that can guide you in installing the Chanson VS 70 and Miracle. Chanson also does offer excellent customer service to help you fine-tune your installations.

  

Warranty:  TYENT  WINS FOR WARRANTY!

KYK:  5 Year Parts & Labor

Tyent:  5 Years Parts & Labor [Can purchase 10-year upgrade]

Chanson:  5 Years Parts & Labor

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
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Cathleen LoGrasso
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