Chanson Miracle-Max Water Ionizer

It was a pleasure testing and comparing the new Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer last week. The Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer, AKA M.A.X., is far better than the Chanson Miracle [regular] water ionizer and it’s only a little more expensive. At a reasonable cost of $1995. [limited introductory price], the purchase of the Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer is a lot of value for the price.

The manufacturer’s claim was that the M.A.X. could make both strong acid and alkaline water for anyone with ANY water source. The Chanson company claimed the Miracle Max water ionizer [with its huge electrode plates, totalling 364 sq. inches of electrode surface area] is as powerful as an 11-plate semi-commercial water ionizer and powerful enough to be used for disinfecting by doctors, hospitals, dentists, spas, vets, restaurants, the food industry, and home use.

After testing the Chanson Miracle-Max all of last week, I’m ready to say that…

The Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer is a great water ionizer and lives up to the manufacturer’s claims.

The following features are very good improvements over the other Chanson water ionizers:

  • The Chanson Miracle-Max has a flow control knob.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max has a large mineral port.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max is authorized to be used with Himalayan rock salt to boost its ionization for the extremes of high/low pH capability.
  • The Chanson Miracle-Max is easy to program.

The following two videos show various testing and demonstrating of the new Chanson Miracle Max water ionizer.

 

 

 

Last week I also spent a little time comparing the Miracle Max water ionizer to the Jupiter Athena water ionizer as well. You can see the results, both in the videos and the chart, below. The Miracle Max water ionizer was programmed a bit on the high-side at every level. I do not encourage consumers to program their water ionizer up this high. It’s best to have a nice graduation from Level 1 to Level 4 that makes it an easy progression for your body to adjust to drinking alkaline ionized water. But, nevertheless, you can see in the water ionizer comparison videos and chart, below, what the Chanson Miracle-Max is capable of.

Miracle-Max vs. Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer Comparison

 

Chanson Miracle-Max Water Ionizer

Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer

Level 1   pH/ORP

10.0/-105

9.9/-92

Level 2   pH/ORP

11.2/-700

10.6/-210

Level 3    pH/ORP

11.3/-700

11.2/-800

Level 4    pH/ORP

11.5/-830

11.5/-833

Lowest Acid Water

2.3

2.3

The results of the water ionizer comparison between the Jupiter Athena and the Chanson Miracle Max are that both water ionizers are about equally capable of producing great ionized water. [Note: The Miracle Max, brand new, is being tested against a 2-year-old Athena water ionizer, but nonetheless they are both coming out great in this comparison.]

I feel very confident recommending the Chanson Miracle-Max water ionizer as a great, high-powered water ionizer.

After over 16 years of drinking alkaline ionized water, I can say with conviction that the very best thing I could give to myself or a loved one is a WATER IONIZER!  Give yourself and your family the gift of health this year! 

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Sincerely,
Cathie LoGrasso
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Today I’m reporting on my water ionizer comparisons of the Tyent Turbo water ionizer vs. the Chanson Miracle water ionizer.

The Chanson Miracle water ionizer is the high-end of the Chanson water ionizer models, and as you can see here it performs well in levels 3 and 4. It also gets a good acid water pH. The Tyent Turbo water ionizer, however performed well at almost all levels [neither ionizer performed well at level 1] and showed a better ORP per unit of pH than the Chanson Miracle water ionizer [which I personally feel is important]. So, I believe Tyent is the clear winner in today’s Water Ionizer Face-Off competition.

Here are the videos, charts and commentaries:

 

10/27/10 Tyent/Miracle-1 Tyent Turbo Chanson Miracle
Level 1pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

9.5 /+32 / 26.73

10.2 /-69 / 24.77 Better but still not good.

Level 2pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

10.4 /-755 / 2.3 Much Better

10.6 /-171 /20.2

Level  3pH/ORP/rH*/Rating

11.2 /-814 / 1.93 Better

11.3 /-797 / 2.7

Level  4 pH

11.3

11.5 Better [for emulsifying oils]

Acid

2.0 Better [for killing germs]

2.5

Level 4 at slower flowpH/ORP/rH*/Rating

11.4

11.6 Better [for emulsifying oils]

Acid @ slower flow-rate

2.0 Better [for killing germs]

2.5

Acid…from Miracle with acid hose flowing uphill

 

2.1 Better [for killing germs]

Note: St. Louis tap water today tested at 9.5 pH and +302 ORP.

Analysis of the Miracle’s Results: Levels 3 and 4 were fine for the Miracle were very good results for ORP, but the pH was high for drinking. At the drinking levels of pH for the Miracle I wasn’t able to get good ORP results. I actually repeated several tests of the Miracle on my own, for my own knowledge, worked with the Chanson technician extensively, and adjusted the settings to the maximum results for my water. I was still unable to get levels 1 and 2 of the Miracle to perform any better than this. Level 3 of the Miracle is close to the Tyent at level 3, although not quite as good of an ORP per unit of pH, and the Miracle’s good results at levels 3 and 4 made me believe that I could program the first two levels to perform better. Keep in mind that the St. Louis source water is a very high pH, so these results would most likely be much lower pH in your area. I say the Miracle at levels 1 and 2 wasn’t performing well, because it was not giving good stable medical quality negative ORP until it got up to about an 11 pH. [Again, consider the source water: in your area this may have been a 10 pH or lower] I tested this over and over on my own, and this is what I observed with all the tests. Most people at an 11 pH are using that for a de-greaser and not as their drinking level. Therefore the high ORP at that level is an indication of good electrolysis, but not useful information for ionized water drinking purposes for people with my source water. My earlier tests of the Chanson focused only on levels 3 and 4 in Laguna Hills, CA, http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/11/17/chanson-water-ionizers-vs-the-melody-water-ionizer/ and so I really have nothing to compare these recent tests at levels 1 and 2 to. It’s possible I’m doing something wrong, and if I figure it out I will let you know.

How did the Tyent do? Well with the Tyent at level 2 you can see by the numbers in the chart above that you could drink at 10.4 pH and get a -755 ORP. And that’s with St. Louis source water! That’s great! Of course you would start out at the lower pH levels, but when you got up to this level you’d be all set with about the best ORP you could get for that level of pH.

This was part 3 of a series of water ionizer comparison tests that I am calling Water Ionizer Face-Off. So far I have compared…

Look for more water ionizer comparisons, as part of Alkaline Water Plus’s Water Ionizer Face-Off Competition, coming soon!

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* Background… Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers: To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. You can’t always look at numbers and figure it out which one is the best ORP per unit of pH easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [rH closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH 

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I spent the morning at the Chanson water ionizer company testing the Chanson Miracle and Chanson VS 70 water ionizers against the Jupiter Melody water ionizer. Here are the videos:

 

 

In this 2nd video [above] you can also see a demo of the G2 Faucet!

 

 

Water Ionizer

 

 

PH

 

 

ORP

 

 

Comment

 

 

Melody Level 3

 

 

9.2

 

 

–440

 

 

Best @ Level 3 [Drinking]

 

 

Melody Level 4

 

 

9.2

 

 

-411

 

 

 

Miracle Level 3

 

 

9.4

 

 

-338

 

 

 

Miracle Level 4

 

 

10.1

 

 

-468

 

 

 

Miracle Low Acid

 

 

3.0

 

 

N/A

 

 

 

VS70 Level 3

 

 

9.3

 

 

-405

 

 

 

VS70 Level 4

 

 

10.4

 

 

-610

 

 

Best @ Level 4

[Strong Alkaline]

 

 

VS70 Low Acid

 

 

 

2.9

 

 

 

 

Best @ Low Acid

Also tested 2.73 with another meter

 

 

 

What are the conclusions? These are all three good water ionizers! I figured they’d all test out great. I already knew from watching Ronnie test the VS 70 that the Chanson acid water was going to test out so low. I’ve never seen the Miracle actually tested before, so this was nice to know that it gets such a great low-acid as well. A 3.0 acid level is fantastic in my eyes…and the other pH tester showed it down to about 2.7 on the VS70! At that low-acid level you could definitely kill germs. According to Nedalee the tests are in and the low-acid water from the Chanson water ionizers are killing staff and e-coli. The next test they’re going to do is for salmonella. 

I was very happy for the experience of going to the Chanson water ionizer company! The Chanson company is new to the US, but they’ve been making water ionizers for a long time in Taiwan. They are state-of-the-art water ionizers and the compact size is quite an advantage if space is an issue for you. These tiny water ionizers have 7 plates in them and the power gets up to 150w [which is as high as it needs to get.]

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Here’s the latest scoop on the Chanson Water Ionizers!

Chanson Water Ionizers now are coming with a lifetime warranty!

Here’s the announcement I just received from Chanson USA:

Attention All Chanson Water USA Authorized Dealers

Chanson Water USA; a name synonymous with top quality and extraordinary value, is proud to announce the introduction of our new Lifetime Warranty, which is available on all of the Chanson Water Ionizers sold after 11-09-09. The new Lifetime Warranty provides original ionizer owners with free replacement parts for LIFE!! Furthermore for the first five (5) years we will provide ALL labor and ground shipping back to our USA customers for FREE!!

The new Limited Lifetime Warranty sets the standard in ionizer service warranties. We, at Chanson Water, are so confident in our products durability and quality that we can pledge to provide extraordinary mechanical support to all our customers for LIFE.

Please click on the link below to read the Chanson Water USA Lifetime Warranty in full

http://www.chansonalkalinewater.com/chanson_ionizer_warranty.php

Please note, the old box and old warranty card will still say 5 years but we will honor the new lifetime warranty

Wow! This is fantastic news! The Chanson water ionizers have seven plates and ionize the water really well. You can customize your Chanson water ionizer to your water source also. The low acid water for both the Chanson Miracle and Chanson VS70 is impressively low as well.

This makes the Chanson and Jupiter companies that now lead the pack with lifetime parts warranties! Yippee!

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What is the Water Ionizer Armor, and how will it SAVE YOUR WATER IONIZER?

In this video, I demonstrate the new “Water Ionizer Armor”. This is a magnetic device which will save the life of your water ionizer by not allowing calcium to stick to the insides of your water ionizer machine! Calcium scale build-up is the enemy of every water ionizer, no matter whether you own a Melody, Athena, Life, Tyent, KYK, Jupiter, Chanson, Enagic Kangen Water or other water ionizer! 


 

Why did I buy a Water Ionizer Armor if my Melody Water Ionizer cleans itself so well?

My Melody Water Ionizer does clean itself really, really well [as I've described on many other blogs], but that cleaning is going on inside the water cell. There are lots of other parts inside every water ionizer that could be affected by scale build-up. The spout is one example. I plan to have my water ionizer for 20 or so years and all that time I want my water ionizer to be as healthy as I am!

Ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, to this I would add that over time, the pH and ORP should also stay consistent with when you bought it. That is achieved both with really good cleaning and with using something like the Ionizer Armor.

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Which is Better? The Chanson VS 70, The Tyent 7070 or the KYK Genesis 7 Plate? And Why?

Tyent 7070 Water Ionizer Silver      KYK Genesis Water Ionizer     Chanson VS 70 Faucet

Water Ionizers Pictured: The Tyent 7070, KYK Genesis 7 Plate & the The Chanson VS 70 

A customer came to me with a question today that was sure hard to answer! So, here’s my best stab at it.

I’ve tested the Tyent and KYK, so I know they both give really good ionized water…I’ve seen testing for the Chanson VS 70 which also looks good. These all look like great water ionizers…so which is best?

In this blog post I’ve provided information and my own analysis of the different strengths and features for each water ionizer. You will have to decide which water ionizer feature is most important to you and judge for yourself which water ionizer is best.  Based on the comparisons, below, you should be able to compare the features and strengths of these water ionizers with the features you think are most important to you — and make a decision that way. They’re all close and all HIGH QALITY, though, so I really don’t think you can go wrong with whichever one you decide. Hope this helps! 

Size: The Miracle and VS70 water ionizers are so small [if smaller is better to you the Miracle and VS 70 water ionizers would be the winners.] 

Cleaning:    ALL ABOUT EQUAL FOR CLEANING

One other thing that’s good to know with cleaning is, you can get an Ionizer Armor to go with any water ionizer to protect the inner cleanliness of your water ionizer so that helps to level the playing field with respect to self-cleaning.

KYK:  Automatic cleaning system – Does “acid-wash” cycle every 30 liters of use. Warns you when it’s washing. You need to continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle. Unit automatically stops water flow when wash is complete and resets it to Level 2.  Automatic draining system – drains water into the electrolysis chamber to enhance cleaning.

Tyent: Automatic acid wash every 5 – 10 min. of use. Warns you when it’s ready to wash. Automatically turns ionizer off when it’s ready for acid wash. You need to push button to start the acid wash and continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle.  

Chanson:  Cleaning frequency adjusted to your source water. Automatically occurs after you turn the machine off – never interrupting your water usage. Will automatically go into a flushing cycle each time you turn on your water ionizer.

 

Plates:   ALL CLOSE TO EQUAL FOR PLATES

KYK:  7 titanium plates slotted then dipped in expensive platinum and baked

Tyent: 7 large mesh plates. Boasts the largest mesh surface area [245 sq. in.] of all water ionizers. Plates are made of a strong titanium slotted mesh then dipped & baked 3 times for an extra thick platinum coating.

Chanson:  7 solid titanium plates are nano plated with platinum using a cutting edge technology which increases the surface area with peaks, valleys and grooves.

  

Filtration:    KYK WINS FOR FILTRATION!

KYK:  Dual filters with activated carbon and specialized media to filter out even more difficult contaminants like fluoride. [Filter Life = About 1600 Gallons]

Tyent:  Activated Carbon & ceramic plus an ACF Fibre filter. Removes chlorine, lead and other chemicals and adds back good minerals  [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons]

Chanson: Adjusts filter life according to your source water. [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons] These are Silver-adding Fiber Activated Carbon Filters (help with Lead reduction): remove lead ions from old pipes and silver-adding which is an anti-bacteria element.

 

Filter Change Indicator:     CHANSON WINS FOR FILTER CHANGE INDICATOR!

KYK: Automatically sensors — display when to change it.

Tyent: Voice [and LCD indicator] tells you when to change the filter.

Chanson: Filter Life is adjusted to source water, so you always know when it really needs to be changed. 

   

Price:    KYK WINS FOR PRICE! [...ALTHOUGH SO DOES THE MIRACLE]

KYK:  On sale now for $300. off [$1695.00] – Plus you receive over $200.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Tyent MMP 7070:  On sale now for $500. off [1995.00] Plus you receive over $600.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Chanson:  Miracle [countertop] $1650.00  &  VS-70 [under-sink] $2195.00

  

Power:     TURBO WINS FOR POWER!

KYK:  Variable amperage makes it possible to set your Genesis water ionizer for up to 76 pH/ORP levels. You can customize your pH and ORP to suite your source water. The power supply is SMPS [more advanced than transformers] to accommodate for the needs of the variable amperage.  [110V, 150W]

Tyent: PH adjustability and SMPS power allows for variable pH/ORP levels to accommodate for differences in source water. [110V, up to 235*W] Turbo option can be purchased for the highest wattages [235-285 W]

Chanson: Amperage adjusts automatically to keep alkaline levels consistent. [110V, 5W - 150W]

 

Water Flow Control:   KYK WINS FOR WATER FLOW CONTROL!

KYK:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization… and your water flow is displayed on the LCD monitor in liters/min.

Tyent:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization.

Chanson:  Flow automatically adjusted to 2.8 liters per minute

  

Installation:   CHANSON WINS FOR INSTALLATION!

KYK: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet and connectors if direct hook up to cold water line is preferred. There is no installation DVD that comes with the KYK. Computer chips and wires located on top of each filter makes the KYK filters very much harder to install and could be a weak point in the design. I believe that eventually a KYK water ionizer might stop working if the customer replaces their own filters every year and doesn’t have the technical expertise or manual dexterity to do it right. Here are pictures of the computer chips at the top of the KYK filters:

KYK-Filter-Chip-1KYK-Filter-Chip-2

KYK-Filter-Chip-3KYK-Filter-Chip-4

Tyent: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet [can also be hooked directly into the cold water line if desired]. People have had difficulty figuring out the technicalities of programming the Tyent to their source water, but have received excellent customer service and had their difficulties satisfied by the technical trouble-shooter at Tyent. There is a DVD for installing which is helpful — but it doesn’t come standard with every order. Make sure you request this DVD when ordering a Tyent.

Chanson:   Miracle [Chanson's 7-plate countertop model] comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet & VS 70 has its own beautiful faucet. The VS 70 will obviously be harder to install, because it’s an undersink model, however the Miracle is fairly easy. Chanson water ionizers come with installation CDs. You also get online videos you can watch ahead of time. The Chanson water ionizers get programmed to your source water hardness — so be ready with that information. You can get your water hardness level by calling the phone number on your water bill. There are videos that can guide you in installing the Chanson VS 70 and Miracle. Chanson also does offer excellent customer service to help you fine-tune your installations.

  

Warranty:  TYENT  WINS FOR WARRANTY!

KYK:  5 Year Parts & Labor

Tyent:  5 Years Parts & Labor [Can purchase 10-year upgrade]

Chanson:  5 Years Parts & Labor

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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A Good Explanation of the Melody and Athena Water Ionizers’ Internal Cleaning Systems is in the video, below.

I came across this video yesterday, and thought I’d share it with you. It’s over a year old, but just as applicable today as it was when it was made!  It’s amazing to me how much better the Melody and Athena are than any other water ionizer for their water ionizer water cell internal cleaning systems. I’ve seen this kind of thing in action with real-live electrodes and the amazing difference this kind of internal cleaning, flow-chamber-switching system makes!

When doing water ionizer comparisons, don’t forget to look at each water ionizer’s internal cleaning system!

It is so important to clean your water ionizer’s electrode plates, that I’m surprised so few water ionizer companies are taking this point seriously enough. I’d imagine that competitive pressure will eventually force all water ionizer manufacturers to address this issue. But in the meantime, we do have the Jupiter water ionizers which have adequate cleaning of electrodes…along with adequate everything, really! It appears that KYK is also a close runner-up or equal…now with their automatic clean-as-you-use electrode cleaning system and new draining system!

Actually KYK has another feature I think beats out the Jupiter ionizers, and that’s the fact that their filters get rid of the fluoride! That’s something that all water ionizers do up to 85% or 90%, but to get more than that, you usually need to prefilter or do RO…which just adds another thing buy and attached to your line.

Chanson has an exceptional looking product that all water ionizers can use, and that’s the “Ionizer Armor“. It’s a strong magnet that puts a temporary charge on the input water, so that when the hard water passes through the water ionizer it won’t tend to stick to the insides of the plumbing and film up the plates with what is called scale build-up.

With the big deal people are making these days about making sure they purchase the water ionizer with the best pH/ORP/rH on testing, I think it will be only the next evolution for all the companies to jump in there and do what it takes to prove their cleaning systems will keep those pH/ORP & rH scores high well into the future with consistently well-cleaned plates.

Lots of testing has been done on brand-new water ionizers. I say it’s time to start testing older models …after months or even years of use! Good idea!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
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Chanson Water Ionizers Has a Great New Gadget that Promises to Extend the Life of your Plates!

The new gadget is called the “Protection Plus Ionizer Armor”. Here’s what it does:

  • Uses magnet technology to reduce or eliminate scaling and hard water build up on your water ionizer electrodes. This technology has been used in factories for years.
  • Extends the life of your water ionizer’s performance. 
  • Gives the ionized water a silky smooth, delicious taste.

One thing I like about this (other than the things listed above, of course, is the fact that it doesn’t add anything to the water. Here’s the video:

I like this new gadget and hope you do too! I’m buying mine today. It works with any water ionizer. I want to make sure my Melody water ionizer has the best advantage to last 20 or so years [which most water ionizers are designed to last], and I think this will help ensure it does that.

You can find this new gadget for sale on my website: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/product/Armor  Mention this blog post in the comment section of the order form and I’ll give you a 10% discount on your Ionizer Armor order.  Enjoy!

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Why Should Your Water Ionizer Be UL Certified? And Which Water Ionizers Are?

First of all, why your water ionizer should be UL certified is for the safety of your home, your loved ones and the environment. Underwriters’ Laboratories (UL for short) tests new consumer equipment for the safety of electrical circuitry, environmental safety, etc. They provide us with a valuable service by doing this. UL has developed over a thousand rigorous safety standards.

What you can do as a customer to protect your family and home is look at the UL symbol in advertizements for products you buy that are electrical. Otherwise the item could start a fire in your home if it contained some sort of sub-standard safety hazard.

Here are the water ionizers that have either existing UL certificates or are pending this certification.

Name of Water Ionizer

UL Certification?

Jupiter Delphi Water Ionizer

Yes

Jupiter Athena Water Ionizer

Yes

Jupiter Aquarius Water Ionizer

Yes

Jupiter Orion Water Ionizer

Yes

Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer

Yes

Jupiter Neptune Water Ionizer

Yes

Life 7500 Water Ionizer

Yes

Life 7600 Water Ionizer

Yes

Tyent 7070 Water Ionizer

No, but pending

KYK Genesis Water Ionizer

Yes

Enagic LeveLuk 501 Water Ionizer

Yes

Chanson Miracle Water Ionizer

No, but pending

Chanson VS70 Water Ionizer

No, but pending

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