Many people have requested a comparison of the Jupiter Orion, Aquarius, Athena, Melody and Venus water ionizers. So I’ve constructed this chart to help you see the similarities and differences between these great water ionizers.
Athena
Orion/ Aquarius
Venus
Melody
pH range in ST. Louis water
2.9 – 11
2.9 – 11
3.0 – 11
3.2 – 11
ORP at middle ranges of pH [drinking water] St. Louis
-400 to -650
-400 to -650
-200 to -300
-300 to -450
Plate Cleaning
Best
Best
Average compared to most water ionizers.
Very good compared to most water ionizers
Do you have to wait for acid wash plate cleaning?
No
No
Yes
No
Filters
Biostone Plus or Biostone .01
Double filter
Biostone Plus or Biostone .01
Single filter
Biostone Plus or Biostone .01
Single filter
Biostone Plus or Biostone .01
Single filter
Type of plates
Mesh
Mesh
Solid smooth
Solid electro-coated
Flow Control Knob
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Can you hook direct to plumbing line?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Can you install under sink?
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Warranty
Life – parts
5-yr labor
Life – parts
5-yr labor
Life – parts
5-yr labor
Life – parts
5-yr labor
2195.
1895.
1195.
1495
Downpayment
No pay-plan
495
200
300
Payments [@10 months]
No pay-plan.
140
99.50
119.50
Here’s some direct links for you to get more information:
Both the Athena Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer are two of my favorite water ionizers for many reasons. But in this post I’m going to focus only on testing and comparing these two great water ionizers. I have compared them both in the past, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any water ionizer comparison testing. In the meantime my testing skills have gotten better as well as my overall knowledge, so when I had the opportunity to test these two great water ionizers up against each other today I took it.
The Athena and Melody Water Ionizer Thoroughly Tested in Every Way
To thoroughly compare the Melody water ionizer with the Athena water ionizer, I’ve done two complete sets of testing at every level: lowest acid level, plus levels 1, 2, 3, and 4. To see all of the testing, watch the following three water ionizer comparison videos, below, then read the charts and analysis that follows.
How to Compare Water Ionizer Testing Results:
There are two ways you can look at water ionizer comparisons. You can either just look at the numbers, and reason out which is the better water or you can apply a scientific formula to it to actually compare the two ionizers more scientifically. First I’m going to show you just how to look at the numbers and compare them. I’ll coach you through this:
Look at Level 3 for Test 1, below. See how the pH is 11 for both ionizers? Also notice that the ORP is hugely more negative for the Athena. That means that per level of pH the Athena is producing more ORP.
If you do further investigation you’ll see that the Athena is the better water ionizer for Levels 3 and 4 [the levels people usually drink at], while the Melody is better for Level 1. Level 2 is a draw.
Water Ionizer Comparison Test 1
Level
Melody
Athena
1
9.4/-383A little better
10.2/-422
2
10.7/-460
10.4/-464
A little better
3
11/-497
11/-670
Far better
4
11.1/-463
11.1/-733
Far better
Acid
2.9
A little better
3.0
Water Ionizer Comparison Test 2
Level
Melody
Athena
1
7.8/-263
Better
9.2/-260
2
10.5/-478
Better
10.1/-373
3
10.9/-610
10.9/-631
Better
4
11.1/-649
11.1/-706
Better
Acid
2.9
A little better
3.0
Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers:
To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. So many people would look at numbers, like the Test 1, Level 1 results, above, and say that 10.2/-422 was better. When in fact, the 9.4/-383 is really a little better. You just can’t look at those particular numbers and figure it out easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water. The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is.
The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH
On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.
Both water ionizers give you healthy water and perform well. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. The Athena is better at levels 3 and 4, which are the levels people mostly drink at, so the Athena is worth the extra money [in my opinion].
Normal tap water is the reverse, it’s oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing. You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html
I have calculated the rH of all test results, above, and show them in the following chart. The smaller the number [closer to zero] the better. Anything below an rH of 10 is a fantastic result. Actually anything under an rH of 20 is very good. Take a look at what happens with the Athena results right around Level 3. The rH makes a significant leap in value [almost double]. That’s why I like to drink my ionized water from the Athena at Level 3. At first I just intuitively liked the water best at that level, but after scientifically analyzing it I can see the rH score is so much better too.
Level
Melody
Athena
1: 1st Test
2nd Test
12.7
13.5
13
15.4
2: 1st Test
2nd Test
12.7
11.7
121
4.4
3: 1st Test
2nd Test
10.1
8.1
6.3
7.4
4: 1st Test
2nd Test
13.5
7.2
-2.2
5.3
Both ionizers perform well though. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. Normal tap water is oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing [including mountain spring water]. You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html
I hear water ionizer testimonials all the time, and I don’t pass them on enough, so here are some fresh ones!
This morning I woke up to an email from an energetic guy who has had and seen so many good health benefits in himself and his friends that he wanted to share them with me and also become a distributor under me. Here are the quotes he sent me from his good friends who have benefited from ionized water:
The Jupiter alkaline water machine has made me “feel better, have more energy, and it’s allowed to to coach my daughters softball team. My lupus is now under control and I have my life back.” Chris Barsam
“My kidneys were spilling so much protein that I was in the hospital and dying. I am now spilling less protein than the average person and I lead a normal life. I was on dialysis and now am off of it. The Dr. says my kidneys are healed.” Tom Reidt
“I have had chronic fatigue syndrome since 1991. Alkaline water has given me the energy to go back to work fulltime.” Wendy Bosch
What a pleasant surprise it was to wake up to all these great quotes from his friends. That got me to thinking…I’ve had some recent water ionizer related experiences that reminded me of how grateful I am for my water ionizer!
I was visiting my Dad [helping him] for the past two weeks. During that time I only had a portable H2Go water ionizer with me. I missed my Athena water ionizer terribly, and I was just starting to feel some of those old, forgotten allergies returning to me when it was [happily] time to come home. Once home I drank lots of ionized water and soon felt back to my normal hardy-healthy self.
Here is one more. On my leg was a small red, swollen spot where I was hit by a flying pebble while trimming my Dad’s lawn edge a couple of days earlier. At night it got itchy an pussy, and it seemed to be spreading. I got up and took a look at it. It looked like poison ivy got into it somehow. So I soaked it with high alkaline water. The itching and swelling went down. A half hour later I soaked it again, and it reduced to a small pink spot with a couple of small scabs on it. It doesn’t itch or bother me at all any more, so I imagine whatever poison was in there is now out and it is now healing rapidly.
Congratulations Eric! on deciding to sign up as an Ionways dealer. Here is the link you can use: Join Now = http://www.ionways.com/JoinWizard.aspx?UserName=clograsso It is very gratifying to help bring the knowledge of ionized water to people and also the Jupiter water ionizers are at the top of their class in every way. I will be happy to help you with your business any time. I’m just a phone call, text, or email away. 314-452-9560
If you want to see more water ionizer testimonials, you should really visit the Testimonials Page on my website: http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/using-ionized-water-testimonials It has stuff on Parkinson’s Disease, colds, allergies, coming back from the “dead”, asthma, high cholesterol, irritable bowel syndrome, weight loss, osteoarthritis, memory, diabetes, acid reflux, dental checkups, bowels, skin, prostate cancer, chronic fatigue, depression, multiple sclerosis, vitality/energy, headache, sleep, cancer, heart disease, indigestion, food cravings, kidneys, eczema, muscular pain, gout, Fibromyalgia, and more! There are also an over-abundance of video testimonials on this page as well!
Many people have been noticing that the Athena and Delphi water ionizers are not on my regular website and are wondering why.
What happened is the IonWays company has decided not to allow their MLM [multi-level-marketing] water ionizers to be advertised on any websites that sell other water ionizers. More or less they’re from now on only going to be displayed on exclusive IonWays websites such as this one [which is one of my websites]: https://www.ionways.com/default.aspx?UserName=clograsso
Basically, I can understand what happened. It was probably hard on the members of the MLM company [IonWays] to compete with online stores. While on the one hand this is “free enterprise”, on the other I suppose it could be unfair to some members. With an MLM the company has to [or should] look out for their members. The commissions for IonWays water ionizers are not unfair or exhorbitant at all. They’re simply a way of paying the members for the work they’ve done in promoting their product. If people started having price wars with what little commission IonWays gives, it would signal the end of the MLM, period. So the measures IonWays has taken to protect their members is understandable.
Why are the Athena and Delphi so special as to single them out for an MLM? Well, they’re Jupiter’s top-of-the-line models; Jupiter is a top-of-the-line water ionizer company; & their prices are outstandingly low…so they are very popular water ionizers. Anyone can buy these water ionizers, but they must be purchased from an IonWays member or website.
Enagic, another MLM water ionizer company, has had their troubles with unfairness problems on the internet, but I don’t think the Enagic company looks to be as responsive to their members as the IonWays company is. For months, on any given day I could [and still can] go to Ebay click on “completed listings” for water ionizers and see one or more sales for the expensive SD501 for about the $2000. range. That has got to really be upsetting. I wonder why the Enagic company hasn’t stomped down hard on these Ebay sellers. They should if they want to keep their MLM alive and well.
So, in case you were wondering, how to find the Athena and Delphi water ionizers, go to my IonWays website. These two outstanding water ionizers are alive as ever and doing very well…they’re just out of the mainstream internet and on a little more controlled path.
I have a series of videos that I’m going to share with you in this post…
Comparing the IonQuench Water Ionizer with the Athena and Tyent Turbo Water Ionizers.
Water Ionizer Comparison Results: The IonQuench did very well, especially since it is considerably less-priced than the other two water ionizers. Based on my testing, I feel very confident recommending this water ionizer to anyone looking for a good [yet inexpensive] water ionizer.
Testing Level 3 of the Ionized Water:
As you can see in the above video, the Athena at Level Three got a 10.7 pH and a -790 ORP; the Tyent Turbo water ionizer got a 10.8 pH and -792 ORP [practically twins with the Athena water ionizer] and the IonQuench got a 10.4 pH and a -720 ORP [not bad].
These are all very respectable water ionizer testing results!
The acid water from bottom spout of the Turbo was considerably better than the other two water ionizers though, 2.5 pH. So if you’re looking for that super low pH to kill germs, the Tyent Turbo is the best one for that.
Testing Level 4 of the Ionized Water [Highest Alkaline and Lowest Acid Settings]:
The next series of tests was for the extremes of highest alkaline and lowest acid settings. The three water ionizers were practically triplets in getting the highest alkaline water. This water is good for greese-cutting, emulsifying oily pestacides off of vegetables, and stain-removing. The Athena got up to an 11.2 pH and the IonQuench water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer both got up to 11 pH. For the lowest acid setting, the best results were from the Tyent Turbo at 2.5 pH. The Athena came in second with 3.0 pH and the Ionquench got a 3.5 pH.
The above videos show that the IonQuench is a good water ionizer [giving great pH and ORP results], but the Tyent Turbo and the Athena water ionizers are both better. I would be confident to sell the IonQuench as a good reliable water ionizer to anyone looking for a good pH and ORP in a bargain priced water ionizer.
As we get ready to end our year 2009 it’s time to celebrate some of the highlights. Looking back over the year, I think the best change for the water ionizer industry ever is the introduction of “Lifetime Warranties”. What that does is give you, the consumer, the confidence to know that if your water ionizer breaks down prematurely, due to some design flaw or something beyond your control, you are protected! That’s great security!
Here’s a breakdown of the water ionizer companies and their warranty improvements [or not] for the year 2009:
Jupiter Water Ionizers:
Started the year 2009 with 5-year warranties, but now have Lifetime Warrantees!
Life water ionizers started 2009 with 5-year warranties with an optional 10-year upgrade [and 20-year warranty on their plates], and are now also giving Lifetime Warranties [but only if you follow their reasonable guidelines for water ionizer care]
Tyent water ionizers started off with 5-year warranties. Tyent’s plates are now warrantied for 20 years, and Tyent gives the customer an option to purchase extended 10-year warranties.
KYK water ionizers
KYK water ionizer warranties haven’t changed, and KYK water ionizers are still covered by 5-Year Warrantees [but their prices have come down].
Enagic Water Ionizers
Enagic warranties haven’t changed, and Enagic [Kangen Water] water ionizers are still covered by 5-year warranties.
In this day and age when all of the water ionizer companies are competing with each other for your business, the consumers benefit. And these new warranties are an example of that.
Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master
I recorded these videos a week ago when I was getting ready to bring my Melody water ionizer to California with me [to give to one of my sons]. This series is a tribute to this fantastic water ionizer , the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer, which my family and I have been enjoying for about the past year. I’ve decided to do one last series of comparison tests, because it may be a while before I get to test the Melody against the KYK, Athena and Tyent again. In this series, I’ve tested Level 3 and Level 4 of the Melody vs. Tyent water ionizers; the Melody vs. KYK water ionizers; and the Melody vs. Athena water ionizers. What’s amazing is how well the Melody has done in comparison with these other great water ionizers. The Melody @1495.00 is less expensive than the other three water ionizers AND has a lifetime warranty. It’s also made by one of the oldest & most trusted names in water ionizers…Jupiter! Also, no matter which is your personal choice of water ionizer …for a limited time, if you mention this blog post, I’ll give you $100.00 off your purchase price for a brand new Water Ionizer! Wow! What a bargain! Here are the videos:
Melody vs Tyent Water Ionizers
Water Ionizer
PH
ORP
Comment
Melody Level 3
10.8
-271
Melody Level 4
10.9
-225
About Equal
Too Close to Call
Tyent Level 3
10.4
-303
A Little Better
Tyent Level 4
10.9
-239
About Equal
Too Close to Call
Melody vs KYK Water Ionizers
Water Ionizer
PH
ORP
Comment
Melody Level
10.4
-390
Melody Level 4
11
-410
A Little Better
Melody Low Acid
3.4
A Little Better
KYK Level 3
10.0
-428
A Little Better
KYK Level 4
10.0
-474
KYK Low Acid
4.0
Melody vs. Athena Water Ionizers
Water Ionizer
PH
ORP
Comment
Melody Level 3
9.7
-366
A Little Better
Melody Level 4
11
-328
Melody Low Acid
3.1
A Little Better
Athena Level 3
11
-358
Athena Level 4
11.1
-360
A Little Better
Athena Low Acid
3.9
As you can see [above] the Melody tests right up there with the more expensive water ionizers. I would not hesitate to recommend a Melody water ionizer to anyone looking for a great water ionizer. My personal opinion is that the Melody is better than the Enagic, and if I had the equal option to have and use either one, I’d choose the Melody!
I did just a little bit more testing of the Athena vs Tyent water ionizers. This time, I tested the Level 4 for the Athena and Turbo mode for the Tyent water ionizer. I used two source waters [St. Louis tap and Reverse-Osmosis-Remineralized water].
What I learned from this testing is:
The Tyent and Athena water ionizers are very similar in their highest/lowest ph levels.
The Tyent in the Turbo mode got a tiny bit higher pH than the Athena water ionizer in one of the tests and was equal in the other.
For acid water: the Tyent Turbo mode got lower than the Athena’s 3.1 pH with a 2.8 pH.
The source water didn’t make much difference at all for the ability of these water ionizers to ionize the water. The results of the ionized RO-remineralized water was about the same as the tap water.
I have tested the Tyent Turbo water ionizer vs the Athena water ionizerbefore, but this time is a little different. I’m using two different source waters: St. Louis tap water and reverse-osmosis-remineralized water.
The tests show that the Tyent Turbo and the Athena water ionizers are neck-in-neck in pH and ORP results!
Also, interestingly enough, the ability to ionize St. Louis tap water is about equal to the IonLife-Reverse-Osmosis-Remineralizer that I have!
That’s great, because usually RO water doesn’t ionize well [due to the lack of minerals in it]. RO gets everything out of the water, and leaves very little in. It’s often called “dead water”. However, with this RO-Remineralizer System, the minerals added are the perfect amount for water ionization! These are also great minerals, by the way. They are all organic, plant-source minerals, so are the healthiest your body can consume. No rock-based minerals are added!
So, with the results being so close between the Tyent and the Athena, which water ionizer do you buy?
Either one! You can’t go wrong with these two great water ionizers! They both have great warrantees! They both ionize water real well! There are differences, but they’re both good.
I just love my new Athena Water Ionizer and my new IonLife Reverse-Osmosis-with-Remineralizer Set up!
For years I was really against reverse osmosis, because it took all the minerals out of the water and left it as “dead water”, as the Japanese refer to it. I’ve been drinking ionized water for about 17 years and have loved every minute of it. Buying water ionizer in my opinion is the healthiest thing a person can do!
I changed my mind about RO when IonLife came out with their new Reverse-Osmosis-with-Remineralizer!
The thing that sold me was the remineralizer! The Remineralizer cartridge puts back organic coral calcium plus 70+ organic trace minerals. Actually I would pay for this advantage alone. Organic plant source minerals are much healthier for your body and don’t cause the problems that inorganic [rock-based] minerals do. Another thing that sold me was the price! I’ve usually heard of RO costing up around $2000.00 or so, but this whole RO system with the 6 gallon storage tank & remineralizer, especially designed to give enough pressure and the right minerals for water ionization with organic plant-source minerals custom-designed to be perfect for a water ionizer….only costs $379.00!
I was a little leary of hooking up an RO. It seemed so complicated. But now in hindsight, it was pretty easy to do! Here’s a quick look at what the RO system entails:
After drinking ionized water from this new RO system with remineralizer for the past few weeks, I can say I really love it! It feels good to my body! I love the fact that the sodium and fluoride are removed so well! I’m very happy with my decision to do this! I’ve done some comparison testing between the RO as a source water and the St. Louis tap water and the RO source water seems to be ionizing the water as well as the tap water. Unfortunately, my ORP meter is on the blink and I’m waiting for my new one to come in. I’ll be doing some comparison videos soon.
Here’s another thing I’m really happy I decided to do…
Buy my new Athena Water Ionizer!
This was a fantastic decision! The Melody water ionizer is truly everything I’ve ever said it was: well-made, tests great for pH and ORP, great filtration, and it is the best water ionizer you can get for the price! However, the Athena is just a bit better. The bit better is mostly in the area of ORP. The Athena water ionizer gets a better ORP per unit of pH than all of the other water ionizers for drinking the healthiest water possible at whatever level of pH you’re able to drink it at.
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