Many people have requested a comparison of the Jupiter Orion, Aquarius, Athena, Melody and Venus water ionizers. So I’ve constructed this chart to help you see the similarities and differences between these great water ionizers.

Here’s some direct links for you to get more information:

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How do the water ionizer testers compare?

…and what are the best water ionizer comparison tests and testers out there?

Other than my own water ionizer comparison videos, one of the best water ionizer comparison videos ever put out was the following one from Silver State Laboratories in Nevada. It would be definitely nice if more labs did more testing and comparing of water ionizers. The results of the testing are certified and available at the following link: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/silverstatelabreport.pdf  

What makes this a great video is the fact that it was done by certified water analysis lab technicians who were impartial to any of the water ionizers tested. What I don’t like about this series of water ionizer comparisons is the focus only on testing the highest levels of each water ionizer. The results of the comparisons in the video are shown in the following chart:

Here’s the video followed by a chart describing the results:

According to this series of tests, the two top water ionizers were The Athena and the Tyent 7070. The next best water ionizers were Enagic and Melody.  These tests are not unlike my own testing results when I do water ionizer comparisons. What is somewhat different about my water ionizer comparisons, though, is the fact that I never just focus on the highest setting of the ionizers. The highest settings are usually used just for cleaning purposes. That’s why when I do water ionizer comparisons I usually test all of the levels. Here are examples of water ionizer comparisons I’ve done, along with some that others have done. If you click on any of the links, below, it will open up in a new browser window, so you can look at two or more charts side-by-side:

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/07/08/comparing-water-ionizers-orion-ionquench-turbo/ [This series of water ionizer comparisons shows the Jupiter Orion and Tyent Turbo relatively the best and the IonQuench coming in a little under]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/category/water-ionizer-comparisons/ [These water ionizer comparisons show the Jupiter Athena better than the Jupiter Melody in most levels.]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/09/17/comparing-the-enagic-athena-melody-tyent-kyk-water-ionizers/ [This series of water ionizer comparisons shows that the Athena and Tyent Turbo are better than the Enagic in Levels of drinking water and in the extreme levels [for cleaning purposes] the Enagic did better than the other water ionizers.]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/07/24/chanson-tyent-melodywater-ionizer-comparisons/ [These water ionizer comparisons were done by Ronnie Ruiz and show only the highest levels compared. The testing shows the VS70 beating the Enagic and the Enagic beating the Melody by a little bit.]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/athena-tyent-life-water-ionizer-comparisons [This series of tests was done by Tyent's Rob Gray. He thinks the Tyent won the comparison testing, however his tests actually show that all three water ionizers came out about the same as each other at the only level he tested...which was the highest level of each water ionizer.]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/aquarius-enagic-tyent-water-ionizer-comparisons [This is another series of water ionizer comparisons by Rob Gray. It shows that the three ionizers tested are too close to call....about the same quality level of pH and ORP at the highest levels for the water ionizers.]

I will look for other water ionizer comparison testers out there and include them in this blog post if and when I find some good ones, but so far, according to my calculations, I’m the best, most scientific and comprehensive water ionizer comparison tester so far. What’s better about my water ionizer comparisons is the thoroughness. I don’t mind other water ionizer comparison testers…I welcome them. They are all adding to the broad knowledge that’s being collected about alkaline ionized water and finding out which are the best water ionizers. Obviously many things could be improved about my videos, such as have a laboratory do the various tests and film them doing them. But that costs a lot of money to do, so it will have to wait for another day.

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Both the Athena Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer are two of my favorite water ionizers for many reasons.  But in this post I’m going to focus only on testing and comparing these two great water ionizers. I have compared them both in the past, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any water ionizer comparison testing. In the meantime my testing skills have gotten better as well as my overall knowledge, so when I had the opportunity to test these two great water ionizers up against each other today I took it.

The Athena and Melody Water Ionizer Thoroughly Tested in Every Way

To thoroughly compare the Melody water ionizer with the Athena water ionizer, I’ve done two complete sets of testing at every level: lowest acid level, plus levels 1, 2, 3, and 4. To see all of the testing, watch the following three water ionizer comparison videos, below, then read the charts and analysis that follows.

How to Compare Water Ionizer Testing Results:

There are two ways you can look at water ionizer comparisons. You can either just look at the numbers, and reason out which is the better water or you can apply a scientific formula to it to actually compare the two ionizers more scientifically. First I’m going to show you just how to look at the numbers and compare them. I’ll coach you through this:

Look at Level 3 for Test 1, below. See how the pH is 11 for both ionizers? Also notice that the ORP is hugely more negative for the Athena. That means that per level of pH the Athena is producing more ORP.

If you do further investigation you’ll see that the Athena is the better water ionizer for Levels 3 and 4 [the levels people usually drink at], while the Melody is better for Level 1. Level 2 is a draw.

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 1

Water Ionizer Comparison Test 2

Scientifically Comparing Water Ionizers:

To scientifically compare water ionziers you need to understand the term, rH [relative Hydrogen], and how important it is to comparing water ionizers. So many people would look at numbers, like the Test 1, Level 1 results, above, and say that 10.2/-422 was better. When in fact, the 9.4/-383 is really a little better. You just can’t look at those particular numbers and figure it out easily. Therefore it’s helpful to have a formula to help you do that. RH is simply a measure of negatively charged Hydrogen per unit of pH in your water.  The smaller the number [closer to zero], the better [healthier & more anti-oxidizing] the water is. 

The formula for rH is: rH = (ORP + 200) / 30 + 2 * pH

On a scale from 0 to 42, above 28 is oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower [closer to zero] the better. RH is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water.

Both water ionizers give you healthy water and perform well. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. The Athena is better at levels 3 and 4, which are the levels people mostly drink at, so the Athena is worth the extra money [in my opinion].

Normal tap water is the reverse, it’s oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing.  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

I have calculated the rH of all test results, above, and show them in the following chart. The smaller the number [closer to zero] the better.  Anything below an rH of 10 is a fantastic result. Actually anything under an rH of 20 is very good. Take a look at what happens with the Athena results right around Level 3. The rH makes a significant leap in value [almost double]. That’s why I like to drink my ionized water from the Athena at Level 3. At first I just intuitively liked the water best at that level, but after scientifically analyzing it I can see the rH score is so much better too.

Both ionizers perform well though. They are both very hydrating and anti-oxidizing. Normal tap water is oxidizing [up around an rH of 32]. Any water below an rH of 28 is good water to drink, healthy, hydrating, and anti-oxidizing [including mountain spring water].  You can read more about the history of rH at this link: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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Here are some interesting water ionizer comparisons that were all done about a year or so ago by Ronnie Ruiz. I’m re-posting this article, because it needed updating and in addition to that it contains important information for anyone considering to purchase a water ionizer. Ronnie states in his introduction to the video series that all of the water ionizers come out very similar in their numbers [i.e., pH & ORP] and I believe that’s true, too, with my own testing and with the testing I see here in Ronnie’s videos. I also agree with Ronnie that not all water ionizer companies are tried-and-true. So, just because a water ionizer gets good results in pH and ORP that shouldn’t be the only test of a good water ionizer. If you look at the bottom of this post you can find out more about the different water ionizer companies. 

In the following three videos and chart you can see comparisons between the Melody, Chanson VS 70 and the Enagic water ionizers. These are all clearly good water ionizers — doing the job that water ionizers should do.

 Comparing the Melody, Enagic and VS70 Water Ionizers

Though I’ve indicated a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the chart above, really these are all good water ionizer results. Keep in mind that the ionized water drinking levels are not being tested here. The rH [Relative Hydrogen: Indicator of drinking water quality] is almost too close to call. On a scale of 0 to 42, an rH closest to 0 is the best. In the case of this test series that puts the VS70 as having a better drinking quality of water than the Enagic, but really the Melody, Enagic and VS70 are all exceptional in their drinking water quality. 

You can also see that the low-acid pH is very close between the Enagic and the VS70. The Melody’s low-acid is perfect for beauty water or watering plants, but I don’t know if it would kill germs. The Enagic and VS70 low-acid water would kill germs. The only thing with the Enagic, though, is that to get that low acid, you need to continually supply your ionizer with saline solution. That gets expensive, but then the Enagic is expensive, comparatively, anyway.

Ultimately, the stability of a water ionizer company can be seen in its certifications:

Which Water Ionizer Company has what Certificates? Here’s all the info! [This informatiion is gathered from the water ionizer US main distributors' websites and I have no personal knowledge other than what they claim]

• KFDA: Korea Food & Drug Administration [GMP standards & authorization to manufacture and sell medical devises]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent
• Japanese Ministry of Health Authorization to manufacture & sell medical devises: Enagic
• Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: KTR [Korea Testing & Research Institute] filters tested for results: Jupiter
• Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: NSF [National Sanitation Foundation International certified the calcium used in filters as in compliance with standards]: Jupiter
• ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 14001: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent, Enagic
• ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 9001: All
• CE [European Conformity]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Chanson, Tyent
• NRTL/CSA [Canada]: KYK

Electrical Safety Certificates: 

• UL-USA [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter, Tyent
• UL-Canada [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter

Business Practices — Conformity to Standards:

• Better Business Bureau [BBB]:  These ratings have been gotten from the BBB Online website and each Company/Score is linked to their report.
  • Jupiter  A+ 
  • Tyent No Rating
  • Enagic A-
  • Chanson A-
  • Ionquench Not Listed  
• Warrantees Offered:
  • Jupiter: Lifetime
  • Tyent: Lifetime
  • Enagic: 5 year
  • Chanson: Lifetime
  • Ionquench: 7 year

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I have completed some more good water ionizer comparisons, which I want to share. In my last set of water ionizer comparisons I found that the IonQuench was actually testing better than the Genesis Platinum. This is significant, because the IonQuench is selling for less money and has a longer warranty period too. So that’s the reason I chose the IonQuench to compare with these other two water ionizers. [The IonQuench is an upgraded version of the KYK Genesis water ionizer].

The testing, below, shows that both the Orion and Tyent Turbo are better than the IonQuench. That’s not surprising, because the Orion and Tyent water ionizers are both more expensive than the IonQuench water ionizer.

Comparing the Jupiter Orion, IonQuench and Tyent Turbo Water Ionizers

I’ve included all the You Tube videos, below, along with the following chart. Basically the IonQuench was tested twice [once with the Orion and once with the Tyent]. Water ionizer testing contains so many variables that you can see the differences even in the results of the IonQuench the first time and the IonQuench the second time. That’s why I think it’s important to test often and in a variety of circumstances [or look at a variety of tests] before making a final judgement on which ionizer tests the best. Here is the chart, followed by the videos, for all of the water ionizer comparisons in this series.

There are a lot more things to consider when buying a water ionizer than just comparing the pH and ORP of the water ionizers. There’s quality of filtration, internal plate-cleaning, construction and sturdiness of the water ionizer, warranty, longevity of the company, certifications for good design and construction of the ionizer, BBB ratings, price, appearance and other features. Where I could, I included other comparisons in the following chart.

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Comparison Testing of the Genesis Platinum and IonQuench Water Ionizers

I wanted to test the IonQuench water ionizer against the Genesis Platinum water ionizer, because even though both water ionizers are made by the same manufacturer [EOS in Korea] and they are both the newest upgrade of the KYK water ionizer I wasn’t sure if they would test out the same. There was some talk about the Genesis Platinum having more watts, and that could make a difference, so I wanted to see if it did. The bottom line is that actually the IonQuench did better than the Genesis Platinum in this series of tests. The IonQuench also has a 7-year warranty [verses the Genesis Platinum water ionizer's 5-year warranty], so I am pretty confident that the IonQuench water ionizer is the better choice between the two.

Below, I have included videos and charts for every level of water ionizer testing.

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 1

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 2

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 3

IonQuench Water Ionizer vs. Genesis Platinum Water Ionizer at Level 4

Water Ionizer Comparison Testing Results

All-in-all I’m pretty surprised that the IonQuench did better than the Genesis Platinum water ionizer. After hearing claims that the Platinum was better I was expecting to see far better results with the Platinum water ionizer.

Programming the IonQuench and Genesis Platinum Water Ionizers

Before the testing, above, I programmed both water ionizers to be at exactly the same levels. For anyone wishing to do their own programming of their IonQuench or Genesis Platinum, you should read the directions that come with your water ionizer. However the instructions are too brief and at times unclear, so watching this following video may help to clarify some of the more confusing points in the programming instructions.

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ATHENA & ORION WATER IONIZERS

I just finished testing and comparing the Jupiter Orion water ionizer against my own water ionizer, the Athena water ionizer. Both water ionizers are made by the same manufacturer, Jupiter water ionizers, but they have a $300. difference in price. I always assumed that the Athena was the best, so I guess I skipped right over the Orion water ionizer and its fraternal twin, the Aquarius water ionizer [the Orion and Aquarius water ionizers are exactly the same on the inside, but look different on the outside], in doing all my comparing and analyzing of water ionizers.

The bottom line is the Orion water ionizer tests equal to the Athena water ionizer!

The following two videos and charts show the testing and comparing of water ionizers that I did. I was very impressed with the Orion in appearance and performance. It’s a great selection for anyone looking for the best performing water ionizers.

Comparing Athena and Orion Water Ionizers

According to the results of the testing, there is very little variation in pH and ORP from one ionizer to the other. This is exactly as I had predicted, because they are virtually the same water ionizer except for the flow control knob and the extra filter in the Athena water ionizer.

Another thing that impressed me with the Orion water ionizer was the sheer beauty of it. I’m not sure if this comes across well in picture or video format, but in real life…the Orion’s beauty is impressive.  Both the Athena and Orion water ionizers are also fantastic in their internal cleaning of the plates. Everything is done behind the scenes with their patented DARC cleaning system, making these water ionizers the easiest water ionizers to use. The Jupiter water ionizer company did a great job with the design and aesthetics of these two great water ionizers.

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I have a series of videos that I’m going to share with you in this post…

Comparing the IonQuench Water Ionizer with the Athena and Tyent Turbo Water Ionizers.

Water Ionizer Comparison Results: The IonQuench did very well, especially since it is considerably less-priced than the other two water ionizers. Based on my testing, I feel very confident recommending this water ionizer to anyone looking for a good [yet inexpensive] water ionizer.

Testing Level 3 of the Ionized Water:

As you can see in the above video, the Athena at Level Three got a 10.7 pH and a -790 ORP; the Tyent Turbo water ionizer got a 10.8 pH and -792 ORP [practically twins with the Athena water ionizer] and the IonQuench got a 10.4 pH and a -720 ORP [not bad].

These are all very respectable water ionizer testing results!

The acid water from bottom spout of the Turbo was considerably better than the other two water ionizers though, 2.5 pH. So if you’re looking for that super low pH to kill germs, the Tyent Turbo is the best one for that.

Testing Level 4 of the Ionized Water [Highest Alkaline and Lowest Acid Settings]:

The next series of tests was for the extremes of highest alkaline and lowest acid settings. The three water ionizers were practically triplets in getting the highest alkaline water. This water is good for greese-cutting, emulsifying oily pestacides off of vegetables, and stain-removing. The Athena got up to an 11.2 pH and the IonQuench water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer both got up to 11 pH. For the lowest acid setting, the best results were from the Tyent Turbo at 2.5 pH. The Athena came in second with 3.0 pH and the Ionquench got a 3.5 pH.

The above videos show that the IonQuench is a good water ionizer [giving great pH and ORP results], but the Tyent Turbo and the Athena water ionizers are both better. I would be confident to sell the IonQuench as a good reliable water ionizer to anyone looking for a good pH and ORP in a bargain priced water ionizer.

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In this post I have listed out some tips to help you compare water ionizers.

My water ionizer comparison page, http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons , is about the best tool you can use to help you buy the exact water ionizer for you.  In addition to looking at my water ionizer comparison page with this guide in mind, I also suggest you watch some comparison videos to see all of the water ionizers in action. This will help you see all those unspoken things about each water ionizer that may make a big difference to you. After all, a water ionizer is an appliance you will have for many years…you want to be happy that you got the best one for you.

Water Ionizer Comparison Guide

Here are some of the main points people look for in purchasing their water ionizer. Keep these points in mind while you’re studying mine or any water ionizer comparison page.

• The first thing to look for is the ability of that water ionizer to get the best ORP [antioxidant quality] per unit of pH. In your drinking water levels of ionized water the ORP is significant. With the highest quality water ionizers you will get a greater negative ORP and more antioxidant protection for you.
• Quality of plates is a very significant comparison point. Water ionizer plates should be made of pure titanium [no alloys] and coated with pure platinum [no alloys] and baked and/or cured properly.
  • Solid plates vs. mesh may be significant: Mesh and electro-coating [computerized peaks and valleys]  increases surface area without increasing plate size. This can get you a better pH and ORP. If mesh or electro-coating of platinum coating to increase the surface area of platinum without increasing the plate size] is used it could be an attractant to scaling unless the water cell itself is cleaned continually. A company using mesh plates should also have, as part of their design, the continual cleaning of their water cell or some other means [i.e. ionizer armor, EOS...] to ensure no scaling of plates occurs.
  • The number and size of the plates is significant only in the fact that each water ionizer needs to be designed well: to get a high pH and ORP at a flow rate that is convenient for customers to use and will endure many years [20 or so] of continual use without faultering. There are pros and cons to more and bigger plates.
    • Cons: More and bigger plates means you have to put more electricity through the plates. This could wear them down faster than the smaller more efficiently designed plates. You also may be stopped from pouring water sometimes [to prevent overheating]
    • Pros: More and bigger plates could get you a better pH and ORP [but not necessarily] and you could also get a better flow rate for pouring your water faster.
• The internal self-cleaning of the water ionizer’s plates is important.
• The highest pH and lowest ph [pH range] is another comparison point I like to look at.
• The company itself [its integrity, stability, duration, organization] is another significant point
• The price is a significant comparison point
• The filtration [onboard filters] capability and quality is significant.
• The warranties offered is significant.
• The ease of use is a significant point.
• The versatility [can it go under and/or over the counter] is a point that some customers will care about.

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Water Ionizer News

Here is a just-posted video interview with Dr. Robert Young, author of pH Miracle books and a 30-year water ionizer researcher/guro, with Chanson Water Ionizer USA owner, Ronnie Ruiz.

Dr. Young used to only endorse the Jupiter water ionizers, mainly the Jupiter Melody. This is because he tested all of the water ionizers and felt that the Jupiter Melody gave you the best “water ionization for your buck”. He liked the way most of the Jupiter models were made [from the Melody water ionizer on up], and he liked their intenal cleaning systems [which are very important].

Dr. Young conducts research on water ionizers and their uses & effectiveness, so that he can help his clients. He does a lot of work with live blood analysis and he puts his clients on alkaline diets. Since he is considered by many to be a top water ionizer guru, his endorsement of a water ionizer is significant.

Now, since Dr. Young has seen and tested the Chanson Miracle water ionizer, he is impressed with this water ionizer’s ability to ionize water well, get an extremely high pH [of about 12 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely low pH [of under 2 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely high/low ORP [above +1000/below -1000], he is convinced that the Chanson Miracle water ionizer is a MIRACLE WATER IONIZER!

Back in November I did my own testing of the Chanson water ionizers and I was also happily impressed with them. Here is the blog post and video series of that testing: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/11/17/chanson-water-ionizers-vs-the-melody-water-ionizer/

A week ago Ronnie went to visit the Chanson factory in Taiwan. Here’s the video:

What really impressed Ronnie at the factory was they test every single feature of every single chanson water ionizer before it leaves the factory! They even test the pH and ORP to make sure that each water is performing at the exact level that it should. Correction Note: Ronnie states in this video that all other, or most or many water ionizer companies put calcium sulphite in their water filters. Actually the only major or popular [in the US] water ionizer filters that I know of with calcium sulphite [which is added as a preservative] in them are: Life water ionizers, Bion-tech, and Enagic water ionizers.

Here’s another video with Ronnie in Taiwan. He’s exploring the many stores in Taiwan where Chanson water ionizers [and other water ionizers] are sold. You can see that Chanson is a main water ionizer leader in Taiwan [where water ionizers are as common as toasters -- it seems]. Fifty percent of people in Japan and 40% of people in Korea have their own water ionizers.

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