The KYK Genesis Water Ionizer Just Tested Against the Enagic in What is Probably the Worst Water in the Country [Houston Texas] and guess what the results were?

The KYK Genesis 3000 water ionizer [KYK's newest 7-plate water ionizer model] beat the Enagic [Kangen Water®] water ionizer 

…by “about half a point higher pH and more than 100 points stronger -ORP.  Plus the KYK Genesis offers two multistage filters to Enagic’s one single stage filter” [quote by Alderin Ordell, president of KYK's Water for Life].

I wouldn’t tend to just believe statements made by owners of companies, except for one thing…I have personally seen this myself. The KYK does beat the Enagic in the drinking quality of water [level of ORP per unit of pH] in the tests I’ve seen and done myself personally. The KYK Genesis 3000 is a design of the Director of Water Science and Research Center in Korea: Kim Young Kwi.  Dr. Kwi’s water ionizer has won the grand prize award from the National Convention of Science and Technology in Korea as well as numerous other prizes related to water ionizers.

KYK Genesis 3000 [7-Plate Water Ionizer]

The KYK Genesis 3000 7-plate water ionizer [KYK's newest and best model] is now on sale through Monday only for a full 15% off the already reduced price.

That means you can get an award winning KYK Genesis 3000 with 7 platinum coated slotted plates for only $1440.75! Hurry! Sale ends Monday, Nov. 30th at midnight!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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It is rare that you will ever see the Enagic water ionizer in a comparison water ionizer test. Most Enagic dealers are reluctant to even want to see comparison testing. So I feel priveledged to bring these videos to you.

We tested and compared the Enagic SD 501, the Melody, the Athena, the Tyent Turbo, & the KYK Genesis 7-Plate water ionizers!

Throughout this testing there was an overall trend toward the…

Enagic not having the best quality of drinking water, but having a better ability to get the highest/lowest pH for non-drinking water [used for cleaning]. 

*See below for a good explanation of how the best quality of drinking water  for water ionizers is determined. 

I couldn’t test them all at once, so I split the testing up into two groups of three water ionizers. Each group was focused on testing two water ionizers against the Enagic [since I don't often get a chance to test the Enagic, I wanted to make sure all four of my water ionizers had a chance to be tested with the Enagic].

Group 1: The Enagic water ionizer, the Tyent Turbo water ionizer and the KYK water ionizer.
Group 2: The Enagic water ionizer, the Athena water ionizer, and the Melody water ionizer.

I’ve highlighted in red the winning water ionizer score from each group of tests. Please note: You can’t very well compare a water ionizer from group 1 to group 2, unfortunately, because of too many variables, but if you look at the Enagic as the focal point you can get an idea of how they compare. 

Comparing the Enagic, Athena, Melody, Tyent & KYK Water Ionizers

 

Level 3 – Drinking Water

 


 

 


 

 

Group 1: the Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 3

8.25

-516

5.97

Tyent Level 3

11.05

-701

5.4

KYK Level 3

10.23

-573

8.03

 

Group 2: the Enagic, Athena & Melody @ Level 3 or Kangen Water 9.5

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 3

8.79

-480

8.25

Athena Level 3

10.71

-673

5.65

Melody Level 3

10.35

-535

9.93

 

Level 3 – Drinking Water [Cathie’s Analysis]: In the above video and chart for Ionized Water at Level 3 it can be seen that the winner for healthiest [rH] drinking water [ionized water at Level 3 for Group 1 is the Tyent, and for Group 2 it’s the Athena. The 11.05 pH, however, is probably too high to drink for most people.

 

 

Level  4 – The Extremes

 


 

 


 

 


 

 

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK @ Level 4 or Strongest Level

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

Alkaline

Acid Output

Enagic Level 4

10.28

3.15

Tyent Level 4

10.52

4.18

KYK Level 4

10.22

3.95

 

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 4 or Strongest Level

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

Alkaline

Acid Output

Enagic Level 4

11.14

2.93

Athena Level 4

10.73

7.11

Melody Level 4

10.62

6.98

 

Level 4: You can see in the above video and charts that the Enagic for these tests is getting the  “Low Acid”  in both videos and the Enagic gets the “High Alkaline” in the 2nd video [with the Tyent beating the Enagic in Highest Alkaline in the 1st video]

 

 

Level 2 – Drinking Water

 


 

 

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 2

9.87

-124

22.27

Tyent Level 2

9.73

-230

20

KYK Level 2

9.43

-100

22.19

 

Group 2: Athena & Melody Level 2 or Kangen Water 9.0

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 2

10.36

-767

2.22

Athena Level 2

10.44

-799

0.91

Melody Level 2

10.23

-758

1.86

 

Level 2: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

 

In this group of tests the Tyent wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water Level 2

 

 

Level 1 – Intro-Level Water



 

Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 1

9.46

-100

22.25

Tyent Level 1

9.22

+20

25.77

KYK Level 1

9.66

-100

22.65

 

Group 2: Enagic, Athena & Melody Level 1 or Kangen Water 8.5

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 1

10.04

-716

2.88

Athena Level 1

10.05

-748

1.83

Melody Level 1

9.89

~-600

6.45

Level 1: Please Note: Unfortunately the battery ran out at the end, so we tested Group 1 on Levels 2 and 1 off-video and have the results here. We were using a faster flow rate. As the testing went on, the Enagic would not accept slow flow rates and the voice would tell us to increase the flow rate. We increased it for the three we were testing at the time. You can see that flow rate makes a big difference in the outcome of the testing, and because of that we really can’t compare the ionizers using one flow rate with the ones using another. This is a good example of how tricky this testing is!

 

In this group of tests, the Enagic wins for best rH in Group 1 and the Athena wins for Group 2’s best rH at drinking water level 1.

 

One Day Later:

After 20 hours: After 20 hours of storing the Level 3 ionized water from Group 1 [above] the following videos were done. This video shows how all of the water ionizers lost a great deal of ORP in just 20 hours.

 



    Group 1: Enagic, Tyent & KYK

[Level 3 Stored/Refrigerated for 20 Hours]

Water Ionizer / Level

pH

ORP

rH

Enagic Level 1

8.45

+219

31.47

Tyent Level 1

11.23

-73

26.69 

KYK Level 1

10.39

-100

24.51 

[Reference to video, above] How did you like that container I showed you at the end of that last video? I think I might start selling those on my website…they’re so cool!

If you have ever heard that Enagic, Kangen Water, stores better or longer than the other ionized water, I’d say this video debunks that.  

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master
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Note: These water ionizer comparison tests were conducted in St. Peters, MO, which has a tap water which is 8.46 pH and +195 ORP
*The rH of a solution is based on a formula applied to the pH and ORP to arrive at the relation between the level of ORP to the level of pH. It is the best measure of the healthiness of that ionized water. I always consider the rH to be the most important measure to look at in any water ionizer comparison test.

  • Here’s an example: if you have two water ionizers producing water at a pH of 9.5, and one has an ORP of -300 and the other has an ORP of -400, then the one with -400 is producing water at a healthier overall quality. Most people testing water ionizers don’t get the exact same pH readings for all the water ionizers tested. So the rH formula is necessary to really see which water ionizer is producing the healthier water. The formula is a very simple one, and anyone comparing water ionizers should look at the rH of the water at the drinking water levels if they are trying to figure out which water ionizer is best. Because ORP is a very tricky measure to get and ORP meters can vary from test to test [depending on how well or frequently they're cleaned, source water and other factors] it’s important to only compare the ORP or rH of water ionizers tested in one setting by the same tester. RH is measured on a scale of 0 to 42, with 0 being the healthiest and 42 the unhealthiest. Tap water in St. Louis is usually around 30 – 35 rH. Any water under 28 rH is considered “reducing” and so is healthy for you.
  • “The relative hydrogen scale was first proposed by Clark in 1923 to the scientific community (mostly inorganic chemists) as a means of measuring the true reducing power of hydrogen present in an aqueous solution…”* Go to this website to see this article and get a more thorough and scientific explanation of rH: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/rH-score-1.html

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More KYK Testing

Sep 11 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

I have recently posted several videos showing the testing of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate water ionizer vs the Tyent Turbo and this is the tail end of that testing. In the first video I test the KYK vs Turbo at level 3 and in the 2nd video I test both water ionizers at Level 4 [or in the case of the Tyent Turbo, it's called the Turbo level].

In the KYK the level 4 wattage goes up as high as 200 watts and in the Turbo it goes up to 280 watts. That’s a considerable difference in the highest wattage capacity and I wanted to see how much of a difference it made in the output of ionized water.

It should be noted that no water ionizer company recommends that drinking water should be at the highest alkaline levels as one would get at Level 4. The only real reason to want your water ionizer to output that high of an alkaline level is for cleaning greasy surfaces or soaking the oily pesticides off your vegetables.

That having been said, here are the videos:

Now, here’s the chart showing the water ionizer comparison results shown in the videos:

Water Ionizers & Tested Level

pH

ORP

rH

Acid Output

KYK Level 3

10.91

-820

1.15

3.81

Tyent Level 3

11.11

-847

0.65

3.27

KYK Level 4

11.19

-838

1.11

3.48

Tyent Level 4

11.39

-862

1.11

3.15

My evaluation is this:

In all of the testing I’ve done, the Tyent Turbo out performs the KYK Genesis water ionizer in:

  •  the ability to achieve the greatest pH [significant if you want to soak pesticides off of your vegetables],
  • the ability to achieve the lowest acidity output [from the bottom hose]. This is significant if you want to disinfect for germs.
  • The Tyent Turbo is also in the better rH at level 3. Both water ionizers are equal in rH at level 4, however the rH at level 4 is not applicable [because rH refers to the drinking water healthiness -- and you don't drink ionized water at level 4].

I hope that all makes sense! One further comment is that both water ionizers are very close in comparison to each other. I don’t think the differences are very significant. The Tyent got better results in my various series of comparison tests, but did not win by much. It should also be noted that the cost of the Tyent Turbo is now $2495.00, and the cost of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate is now $1695.00. I always look at cost when I make my water ionizer comparisons. It is something to consider.

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

*pH means potential Hydrogen and is measured by a logarithmic [each unit is a multiple of 10 of the preceding unit] scale from 1 to 14. When a substance is below 7 on the scale it is said to be acidic. When it’s above 7 it’s said to be alkaline. The blood is around 7.35 and must stay in a very narrow range of slight alkalinity in order to sustain life.

 *ORP means Oxygen Reduction Potential. It basically stands for the proportionate amount of negatively charged Hydrogen ions [H-] existing in a substance. The easiest way to look at is …it’s the anti-oxidant effect that that substance is cabable of giving your body when you drink it.

*rH is “relative Hydrogen”. This test calculation shows the actual health benefits of the water tested. Many now believe that this is the most important factor contributing to good health.  Note: To find rH one uses pH and ORP measurements plugged into a formula. The formula is:  rH = ((ORP + 200) / 30) + (2 * pH). On a scale from 0 to 42 above 28 oxidizing (higher potential to damage the closer it gets to 40) and below 28 is reducing (anti-oxidizing)…the lower the better.  

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I’ve been comparing the KYK and Tyent water ionizers in my home in St. Louis, but I had the opportunity to take these two water ionizers with me on a trip last week so was able to compare them in South Carolina [Hilton Head Island area] which has a much different source water.

The tap water in St. Louis is a pH of 10 and ORP of +350 [usually] and the tap water in South Carolina at my dad’s house was 7.76 pH and +412 ORP. The differences between these two source waters were so great that I was very curious…

Would my KYK and Tyent Water Ionizers do as well in So. Carolina as in St. Louis? and…

How would the KYK and Tyent Water Ionizers compare with each other using the South Carolina source water?

Here are the videos and the chart of water ionizer comparisons:

Water Ionizers Compared

KYK & Tyent Turbo

in South Carolina

KYK & Tyent Water Ionizers

@Levels 1, 2, 3 & 4

pH

ORP

rH

KYK@L-1

9.83

-702

2.93

Tyent@L-1

9.54

-698

2.48

KYK@L-2

10.36

-777

1.49

Tyent@L-2

10.51

-811

0.65

KYK@L-3

10.79

-816

1.05

Tyent@L-3

11.15

-855

0.47

KYK@L-4

11.06

-836

N/A 0.92

Tyent@Turbo Level

11.28

-859

N/A 0.59

KYK@Lowest Acidity Level

3.34

N/A

N/A

Tyent@Lowest Acidity Level

3.09

N/A

N/A

South Carolina [Hilton Head Area] Tap Water

 

7.76

 

+412

 

35.92

 

My analysis of this is:

The Tyent and KYK are practically identical, however the Tyent Turbo at every level was a tiny bit better than the KYK Genesis 7 Plate.

Other Notes:

  • They both performed fantastically! I was so impressed, especially since the source water was so much different than St. Louis!
  • The KYK required more button-pushing to operate.
  • They both shut off for cleaning [causing me to wait while they cleaned themselves] — not too much time was spent on this though.
  • They both went into auto self-cleaning when I turned on the power supply.
Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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KYK Genesis Gets Tested in Florida!

Aug 23 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

I’ve just finished testing the KYK Genesis water ionizer in Clearwater, Florida, and got great, FANTASTIC, results!

I’ve had to do a little business and personal traveling last week and this week, so I thought I’d bring two water ionizers along and test them to see how they do. My first stop was Florida. I was so busy, that I could only test one water ionizer, so I picked the KYK [since I'm doing a big project on the KYK Genesis right now]. Circumstances were such that I didn’t even get a chance to hook the KYK up until Saturday [ yesterday] just before it was time for me to leave. My camera was all set to go, then the battery died! So I did test the KYK Genesis water ionizer, but unfortunately I have no video to share with you on this testing. Here’s the chart of the results:

KYK Genesis 7-Plate Water Ionizer

PH

ORP

rH

Level 1

9.18

-40

23.69

Level 2

9.58

-687

2.93

Level 3

9.99

-760

1.31

Level 4

10.35

-789

1.07

       
Low Acid Setting

6.5

N/A

N/A

Clearwater, FL Tap Water

8.38

+565

N/A

Here’s my analysis:

  • Level 1 seems weak, however if you consider that you’re taking the ORP from a positive 565 and changing it to a negative 40 it is amazing, really.
  • Levels 2 and 3 are just fantastic! To get that high of a negative ORP for your drinking water [without having to jack the pH up too high -- is really, really exemplary!
  • Level 4 [highest alkaline]: This is a little on the weak side, compared with other 7-plate water ionizer testing. Perhaps it has to do with the source water. It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t expect it to emusify oils at that level. So if you intend to soak vegetables to emulsify the pesticides and get your veggies completely free of these pesticides…I’m not sure you can do it unless you got a higher pH than about 11.
  • Low Acid Setting: Again, this is weak with this source water. The KYK was able to get higher extremes [a higher alkaline pH and lower acid pH] on Level 4 in St. Louis than in Florida. This isn’t anything against this particular brand of water ionizer, it has to do with the source water.

Look forward to more testing of the KYK Genesis this week. I plan to test and compare the KYK Genesis water ionizer and the Tyent Turbo water ionizer. So, stay tuned!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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KYK Genesis 7-Plate: More Testing

Aug 22 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

I’ve been conducting some tests of the KYK Genesis 7-Plate Water Ionizer and have some more videos and charts to share with you. Click here to read my first videos & blog post, which is of Levels 1 - 3 [both alkaline and acid waters are tested].

In this video I just wanted to re-do the testing at level 3 for the KYK Genesis, because in my last videos…though the results were good for the Genesis, the Melody did equal…or maybe even a little better. This didn’t make sense to me [because the Melody only has 5 plates and the Genesis water ionizer has 7 plates. So, in this re-test, the KYK Genesis had about the same results as in the previous test. pH =  11.04 & ORP = -809.

Here I have another video showing the KYK Genesis water ionizer at levels 2, 3, and 4. The data found is reported in the chart below the video. I have to say I'm disapointed that the KYK Genesis does not have the cleaning cycle that I thought it had. I will have to double-check this with the technicians on Monday, but as you can see in the video, the Genesis water ionizer does go into an acid wash cleaning cycle which requires the user to wait while the water ionizer is cleaning itself. This is probably no big deal for most people, but I like it when I don't have to be inconvenienced with waiting for my water ionizer to clean itself. I think that when children are around [pouring their own water] it’s a good idea to have a water ionizer that cleans itself well without making you wait for an acid wash.

Here’s the Chart:

Genesis Water ionizer: Table Shows Results of

Water Ionizer Comparisons at Level 2, 3, & 4

 

Water Ionizer:

KYK Genesis

 

pH

 

ORP

 

rH*

 

@ Level 2

 

10.74

 

-50

 

24.98

 

@ Level 3

 

10.97

 

-786

 

2.4

 

@ Level 4

 

11.2

 

-830

 

1.4

 

Lowest Acid Water

 

4.2

 

N/A

 

N/A

 

rH = Relative Hydrogen [the healthiness of the water relative to the pH setting]. The smaller the number — the better. On a scale of 0 – 42, 0 is the healthiest and 42 is the unhealthiest. Tap water is usually around 30 – 35.

 

My thoughts on this KYK Genesis water ionizer so far is that it has a fantastic rH [ORP for the level of pH] at levels 3 and 4. Why level one is not good, I’m not sure. I need to call the technicians anyway to find out why the literature says no waiting is needed for the Genesis water ionizer to clean itself but in fact you do have to wait for the traditional acid wash. I’ll fill you in on the answer to this when I find out. At the same time, I will find out if there are other settings I should have done in the set-up.

Overall, though, this is an awesome water ionizer, and I think it’s better than the Enagic. It appears to be about equal to the Tyent 7070 and Life 7600.

I will be doing more testing of the Enagic [who call themselves the Kangen Water Machine] as soon as I return to St. Louis on about the 1st of Sept. Next week I’ll share a little blurb about the KYK in Florida, and then I’ll do some extensive testing and comparisons of the KYK and Tyent Turbo in South Caronina. I can’t wait to see the differences with different source water! So stay tuned!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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This week I have the pleasure and opportunity to compare the KYK Genesis 7-Plate Water Ionizer and the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer! I’ll be videoing & blogging about it as I go.

This is the first of a series of videos about the KYK Genesis water ionizer. Here’s the first set of 2 videos, entitled: The KYK Genesis 7-Plate and the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizers Compared at Levels 1, 2, and 3. It is a 2-part video.

Table Shows Results of Water Ionizer Comparisons at Level 1, 2, & 3 for the Genesis Water ionizer and the Melody Water Ionizer.

Water Ionizer

pH

ORP

rH*

 

 

 

 

Level 1

 

 

 

KYK Genesis

10.52

-275

18.54

Jupiter Melody

11.15

-303

18.87

 

 

 

 

Level 2

 

 

 

KYK Genesis

10.76

-302

18.12

Jupiter Melody

11.33

-365

17.16

 

 

 

 

Level 3

 

 

 

KYK Genesis

11.13

-415

15.09

Jupiter Melody

11.42

-409

15.87

rH = Relative Hydrogen [the healthiness of the water relative to the pH setting]. The smaller the number — the better. On a scale of 0 – 42, 0 is the healthiest and 42 is the unhealthiest. Tap water is usually around 30 – 35.

Here’s another video comparing the KYK Genesis with the Melody water ionizers at Level 3.

Here’s a Charts to go with the above video…

Level 3 Acid Water Output
for Both Water Ionizers
KYK Genesis:  6.24
Jupiter Melody:  4.43

 

Water Ionizers @ Level 3

PH

ORP

rH

KYK Genesis

11.02

-811

1.67

Jupiter Melody

11.38

-848

1.16

According to the above videos and chart, these two water ionizers are too close to call in the ability to ionize the water at these three levels. I have to say I’m surprised at how well the Melody holds up in these tests with 7-plate water ionizers. This Melody is over 10 months old too…so you can see it’s staying really clean too.

I will do more testing in further posts, plus I will soon be comparing the KYK Genesis with the Tyent Turbo…so stay tuned!

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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KYK Genesis Water Ionizer Testing

Aug 18 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

The KYK Genesis at Levels 2, 3 & 4 is being tested by me in this video. The chart below shows the pH and ORP of the alkaline ionized water at these levels and the pH of the lowest acid level.

 

Genesis Water ionizer: Table Shows Results of
Water Ionizer Comparisons at Level 2, 3, & 4

Water Ionizer:           KYK Genesis

pH

ORP

rH*

@ Level 2

10.74

-50

26.5

@ Level 3

10.97

-786

2.41

@ Level 4

11.2

-830

1.4

Lowest Acid Water

4.2

N/A

N/A

 

rH = Relative Hydrogen [the healthiness of the water relative to the pH setting]. The smaller the number — the better. On a scale of 0 – 42, 0 is the healthiest and 42 is the unhealthiest. Tap water is usually around 30 – 35.My thoughts on this KYK Genesis water ionizer is that it has a fantastic rH [ORP for the level of pH] at levels 3 and 4. Why level one is not good, I’m not sure. I need to call the technicians anyway to find out why the literature says no waiting is needed for the Genesis water ionizer to clean itself but in fact you do have to wait for the traditional acid wash. I’ll fill you in on the answer to this when I find out. At the same time, I will find out if there are other settings I should have done in the set-up.

Overall, though, this is an awesome water ionizer, and I think it’s better than the Enagic. It appears to be about equal to the Tyent 7070 and Life 7600.

I will be doing more testing of the Enagic [who call themselves the Kangen Water Machine] as soon as I return to St. Louis on about the 1st of Sept. Next week I’ll share a little blurb about the KYK in Florida, and then I’ll do some extensive testing and comparisons of the KYK and Tyent Turbo in South Caronina. I can’t wait to see the differences with different source water! So stay tuned!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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How do the Water Ionizer Plates Compare with Each Other and Why Would You Compare Plates?

I stated in my last post: ultimately, the pH and ORP are the only real way you can judge how great your water ionizer is. But, what do the plates [platinum coated titanium electrodes] have to do with this?  

There is a lot of wonder and even confusion about the differences among water ionizers in their design, size and manufacturing processes used in making their platinum/titanium electrode plates [which some people call the "heart" of every water ionizer]. Are they all safe? Yes — the ones I sell are all safe; I’ve checked them all out. Are they all as good as each other? No. Some are better, but it truly is hard to say which is better. I see the problem. Many people are claiming that a bigger plate size or more coatings and bakings of platinum are better. the bottom line is that you WILL ultimately see how good each company’s design is when you go to test them. I honestly believe all of the plate designs are good, because these water ionizers are giving great pH and ORP. Don’t believe scare tactics that the plates are coated with platinum then cut. This is not the case. They are all cut, slotted or meshed prior to coating with platinum. They all follow safety guidelines for water filtration and ionization in other words. So, don’t worry about that. 

This blog post is devoted to describing the plate design for each of the major water ionizers. I have provided pictures wherever I had them available. If I get more pics in the future, I’ll add them then. I’m not claiming that any plate design is better, though, because they all look good, and all of these particular water ionizers get good pH and ORP for healthy, healing alkaline ionized water.

Chanson: Chanson plates are made of titanium and dipped twice and then sent to an oven for three separate times. They are each time nano plated, which means the platinum is broken down into smaller particles before plated. The end product is a far denser platinum coating than many other water ionizers. Chanson claims their plates hold up very well in hard water areas. Chanson also uses a process called fritting. Fritting creates a larger surface area for greater electrolysis. This is a picture of a microscopic section of a fritted Chanson electrode plate:

Chanson Electrode Plates (Fritted)

Life: Life water ionizers have a mesh plate on each end of the row of 5 solid plates [3"x5"]. Their mesh plates have a very large surface area, without compromising the quality and strength of the titanium. In other words they’re still solid enough to last far longer than I’m sure they even need to. They are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating of a minimum .25mm thickness. Life water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty. Life mesh plates are pictured below as the plate above the Tyent mesh plate.

 Life and Tyent Mesh Plates

Tyent Mesh Plate

Tyent Slotted Plates Meshed

Tyent: Tyent water ionizers have huge plates, possibly the largest plate size of all other water ionizers…even Enagic. The Tyent plate is pictured above under the Life mesh plate. The plates are placed at cross angles to each other to make a mesh as in the 2nd figure. Tyent’s electrode plates are slotted, then placed in such a way that a cross mesh is created when all plates are together in the water cell. A membrane is placed between each plate for proper spacing and to ensure that the two plates do not touch for superior ionization. The titanium slotted plates are dipped and baked twice for a superior coating. Tyent water ionizers now have a 20-year plate warranty.

Jupiter: The Athena has 5 mesh plates [3"x5"], and the Melody has 5 solid plates [3"x5"] with padding placed between for superior electrolysis. The plates are electro-coated by little machine-bots spraying the plates with electronically programmed-in peaks and valleys of platinum on the pre-cut mesh or solid plates prior to baking. This gives an even greater surface area and better electrolysis than what is possible with dipping.

 Jupiter Athena Mesh Plates

KYK: KYK water ionizers are made with oversized cutting edge slotted titanium electrode plates which are dipped and baked for a superior coating.

Enagic: Enagic representatives boast of having the largest plate size of all. It seems they are mistaken, however… they do have very large plates. The plates are coated and baked properly with platinum coating. They claim the smooth plating process causes less hard water build-up of calcium attaching to the plates. That may or may not be the case, but if you get an Ionizer Armor  you shouldn’t have this problem anyway. I don’t have a pic of the plates, but am picturing the large water cell here:

Enagic Electrolysis Chamber

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

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Which is Better? The Chanson VS 70, The Tyent 7070 or the KYK Genesis 7 Plate? And Why?

Tyent 7070 Water Ionizer Silver      KYK Genesis Water Ionizer     Chanson VS 70 Faucet

Water Ionizers Pictured: The Tyent 7070, KYK Genesis 7 Plate & the The Chanson VS 70 

A customer came to me with a question today that was sure hard to answer! So, here’s my best stab at it.

I’ve tested the Tyent and KYK, so I know they both give really good ionized water…I’ve seen testing for the Chanson VS 70 which also looks good. These all look like great water ionizers…so which is best?

In this blog post I’ve provided information and my own analysis of the different strengths and features for each water ionizer. You will have to decide which water ionizer feature is most important to you and judge for yourself which water ionizer is best.  Based on the comparisons, below, you should be able to compare the features and strengths of these water ionizers with the features you think are most important to you — and make a decision that way. They’re all close and all HIGH QALITY, though, so I really don’t think you can go wrong with whichever one you decide. Hope this helps! 

Size: The Miracle and VS70 water ionizers are so small [if smaller is better to you the Miracle and VS 70 water ionizers would be the winners.] 

Cleaning:    ALL ABOUT EQUAL FOR CLEANING

One other thing that’s good to know with cleaning is, you can get an Ionizer Armor to go with any water ionizer to protect the inner cleanliness of your water ionizer so that helps to level the playing field with respect to self-cleaning.

KYK:  Automatic cleaning system – Does “acid-wash” cycle every 30 liters of use. Warns you when it’s washing. You need to continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle. Unit automatically stops water flow when wash is complete and resets it to Level 2.  Automatic draining system – drains water into the electrolysis chamber to enhance cleaning.

Tyent: Automatic acid wash every 5 – 10 min. of use. Warns you when it’s ready to wash. Automatically turns ionizer off when it’s ready for acid wash. You need to push button to start the acid wash and continue the water flowing throughout the complete washing cycle.  

Chanson:  Cleaning frequency adjusted to your source water. Automatically occurs after you turn the machine off – never interrupting your water usage. Will automatically go into a flushing cycle each time you turn on your water ionizer.

 

Plates:   ALL CLOSE TO EQUAL FOR PLATES

KYK:  7 titanium plates slotted then dipped in expensive platinum and baked

Tyent: 7 large mesh plates. Boasts the largest mesh surface area [245 sq. in.] of all water ionizers. Plates are made of a strong titanium slotted mesh then dipped & baked 3 times for an extra thick platinum coating.

Chanson:  7 solid titanium plates are nano plated with platinum using a cutting edge technology which increases the surface area with peaks, valleys and grooves.

  

Filtration:    KYK WINS FOR FILTRATION!

KYK:  Dual filters with activated carbon and specialized media to filter out even more difficult contaminants like fluoride. [Filter Life = About 1600 Gallons]

Tyent:  Activated Carbon & ceramic plus an ACF Fibre filter. Removes chlorine, lead and other chemicals and adds back good minerals  [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons]

Chanson: Adjusts filter life according to your source water. [Filter Life = About 1000 Gallons] These are Silver-adding Fiber Activated Carbon Filters (help with Lead reduction): remove lead ions from old pipes and silver-adding which is an anti-bacteria element.

 

Filter Change Indicator:     CHANSON WINS FOR FILTER CHANGE INDICATOR!

KYK: Automatically sensors — display when to change it.

Tyent: Voice [and LCD indicator] tells you when to change the filter.

Chanson: Filter Life is adjusted to source water, so you always know when it really needs to be changed. 

   

Price:    KYK WINS FOR PRICE! [...ALTHOUGH SO DOES THE MIRACLE]

KYK:  On sale now for $300. off [$1695.00] – Plus you receive over $200.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Tyent MMP 7070:  On sale now for $500. off [1995.00] Plus you receive over $600.00 of free gifts with purchase.

Chanson:  Miracle [countertop] $1650.00  &  VS-70 [under-sink] $2195.00

  

Power:     TURBO WINS FOR POWER!

KYK:  Variable amperage makes it possible to set your Genesis water ionizer for up to 76 pH/ORP levels. You can customize your pH and ORP to suite your source water. The power supply is SMPS [more advanced than transformers] to accommodate for the needs of the variable amperage.  [110V, 150W]

Tyent: PH adjustability and SMPS power allows for variable pH/ORP levels to accommodate for differences in source water. [110V, up to 235*W] Turbo option can be purchased for the highest wattages [235-285 W]

Chanson: Amperage adjusts automatically to keep alkaline levels consistent. [110V, 5W - 150W]

 

Water Flow Control:   KYK WINS FOR WATER FLOW CONTROL!

KYK:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization… and your water flow is displayed on the LCD monitor in liters/min.

Tyent:  Water flow can be controlled automatically to adjust to the quality of the source water and maximize ionization.

Chanson:  Flow automatically adjusted to 2.8 liters per minute

  

Installation:   CHANSON WINS FOR INSTALLATION!

KYK: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet and connectors if direct hook up to cold water line is preferred. There is no installation DVD that comes with the KYK. Computer chips and wires located on top of each filter makes the KYK filters very much harder to install and could be a weak point in the design. I believe that eventually a KYK water ionizer might stop working if the customer replaces their own filters every year and doesn’t have the technical expertise or manual dexterity to do it right. Here are pictures of the computer chips at the top of the KYK filters:

KYK-Filter-Chip-1KYK-Filter-Chip-2

KYK-Filter-Chip-3KYK-Filter-Chip-4

Tyent: Comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet [can also be hooked directly into the cold water line if desired]. People have had difficulty figuring out the technicalities of programming the Tyent to their source water, but have received excellent customer service and had their difficulties satisfied by the technical trouble-shooter at Tyent. There is a DVD for installing which is helpful — but it doesn’t come standard with every order. Make sure you request this DVD when ordering a Tyent.

Chanson:   Miracle [Chanson's 7-plate countertop model] comes with stainless steel adaptor to hook up to faucet & VS 70 has its own beautiful faucet. The VS 70 will obviously be harder to install, because it’s an undersink model, however the Miracle is fairly easy. Chanson water ionizers come with installation CDs. You also get online videos you can watch ahead of time. The Chanson water ionizers get programmed to your source water hardness — so be ready with that information. You can get your water hardness level by calling the phone number on your water bill. There are videos that can guide you in installing the Chanson VS 70 and Miracle. Chanson also does offer excellent customer service to help you fine-tune your installations.

  

Warranty:  TYENT  WINS FOR WARRANTY!

KYK:  5 Year Parts & Labor

Tyent:  5 Years Parts & Labor [Can purchase 10-year upgrade]

Chanson:  5 Years Parts & Labor

 

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
Blog-Master

 

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