Comparing the Jupiter Water Ionizers

Aug 31 · by Cathleen LoGrasso

Many people have requested a comparison of the Jupiter Orion, Aquarius, Athena, Melody and Venus water ionizers. So I’ve constructed this chart to help you see the similarities and differences between these great water ionizers.

  Athena Orion/ Aquarius Venus Melody
pH range in ST. Louis water 2.9  – 11 2.9 – 11 3.0 – 11 3.2 – 11
ORP at middle ranges of pH [drinking water] St. Louis -400 to -650 -400 to -650 -200 to -300 -300 to -450
Plate Cleaning Best Best Average compared to most water ionizers. Very good compared to most water ionizers
Do you have to wait for acid wash plate cleaning? No No Yes No
Filters Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Double filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Biostone Plus or Biostone .01

Single filter

Type of plates Mesh Mesh Solid smooth Solid electro-coated
Flow Control Knob Yes No Yes Yes
Can you hook direct to plumbing line? Yes Yes Yes Yes
Can you install under sink? Yes No Yes Yes
Warranty Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

Life – parts

5-yr labor

  2195. 1895. 1195. 1495
Downpayment No pay-plan 495 200 300
Payments [@10 months] No pay-plan. 140 99.50 119.50

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How do the water ionizer testers compare?

…and what are the best water ionizer comparison tests and testers out there?

Other than my own water ionizer comparison videos, one of the best water ionizer comparison videos ever put out was the following one from Silver State Laboratories in Nevada. It would be definitely nice if more labs did more testing and comparing of water ionizers. The results of the testing are certified and available at the following link: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/silverstatelabreport.pdf  

What makes this a great video is the fact that it was done by certified water analysis lab technicians who were impartial to any of the water ionizers tested. What I don’t like about this series of water ionizer comparisons is the focus only on testing the highest levels of each water ionizer. The results of the comparisons in the video are shown in the following chart:

Here’s the video followed by a chart describing the results:

  pH ORP rH
Tap Water 7.42 +260.6 30.19
Athena Water Ionizer 10.54 -812 0.68  BEST
Melody Water Ionizer 10.47 -637 6.37
Tyent MMP 7070 9.47 -740 0.94   2nd
Life 7500 10.72 -164.7 Possibly a malfunctioning ionizer.
Enagic SD 501 9.46 -578.7 6.3

According to this series of tests, the two top water ionizers were The Athena and the Tyent 7070. The next best water ionizers were Enagic and Melody.  These tests are not unlike my own testing results when I do water ionizer comparisons. What is somewhat different about my water ionizer comparisons, though, is the fact that I never just focus on the highest setting of the ionizers. The highest settings are usually used just for cleaning purposes. That’s why when I do water ionizer comparisons I usually test all of the levels. Here are examples of water ionizer comparisons I’ve done, along with some that others have done. If you click on any of the links, below, it will open up in a new browser window, so you can look at two or more charts side-by-side:

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/07/08/comparing-water-ionizers-orion-ionquench-turbo/ [This series of water ionizer comparisons shows the Jupiter Orion and Tyent Turbo relatively the best and the IonQuench coming in a little under]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/category/water-ionizer-comparisons/ [These water ionizer comparisons show the Jupiter Athena better than the Jupiter Melody in most levels.]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/09/17/comparing-the-enagic-athena-melody-tyent-kyk-water-ionizers/ [This series of water ionizer comparisons shows that the Athena and Tyent Turbo are better than the Enagic in Levels of drinking water and in the extreme levels [for cleaning purposes] the Enagic did better than the other water ionizers.]

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2010/07/24/chanson-tyent-melodywater-ionizer-comparisons/ [These water ionizer comparisons were done by Ronnie Ruiz and show only the highest levels compared. The testing shows the VS70 beating the Enagic and the Enagic beating the Melody by a little bit.]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/athena-tyent-life-water-ionizer-comparisons [This series of tests was done by Tyent's Rob Gray. He thinks the Tyent won the comparison testing, however his tests actually show that all three water ionizers came out about the same as each other at the only level he tested...which was the highest level of each water ionizer.]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/aquarius-enagic-tyent-water-ionizer-comparisons [This is another series of water ionizer comparisons by Rob Gray. It shows that the three ionizers tested are too close to call....about the same quality level of pH and ORP at the highest levels for the water ionizers.]

I will look for other water ionizer comparison testers out there and include them in this blog post if and when I find some good ones, but so far, according to my calculations, I’m the best, most scientific and comprehensive water ionizer comparison tester so far. What’s better about my water ionizer comparisons is the thoroughness. I don’t mind other water ionizer comparison testers…I welcome them. They are all adding to the broad knowledge that’s being collected about alkaline ionized water and finding out which are the best water ionizers. Obviously many things could be improved about my videos, such as have a laboratory do the various tests and film them doing them. But that costs a lot of money to do, so it will have to wait for another day.

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Here are some interesting water ionizer comparisons that were all done about a year or so ago by Ronnie Ruiz. I’m re-posting this article, because it needed updating and in addition to that it contains important information for anyone considering to purchase a water ionizer. Ronnie states in his introduction to the video series that all of the water ionizers come out very similar in their numbers [i.e., pH & ORP] and I believe that’s true, too, with my own testing and with the testing I see here in Ronnie’s videos. I also agree with Ronnie that not all water ionizer companies are tried-and-true. So, just because a water ionizer gets good results in pH and ORP that shouldn’t be the only test of a good water ionizer. If you look at the bottom of this post you can find out more about the different water ionizer companies. 

 

In the following three videos and chart you can see comparisons between the Melody, Chanson VS 70 and the Enagic water ionizers. These are all clearly good water ionizers — doing the job that water ionizers should do.

 
 

 Comparing the Melody, Enagic and VS70 Water Ionizers

 

PH

ORP

Acid

rH

Melody

10.78

-750

4.5

3.23 ..3RD

Enagic@3800.

11.33

-786

2.49

3.12 ..2ND

Vs70

10.23

-748

3.03

2.19 ..1ST

Though I’ve indicated a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the chart above, really these are all good water ionizer results. Keep in mind that the ionized water drinking levels are not being tested here. The rH [Relative Hydrogen: Indicator of drinking water quality] is almost too close to call. On a scale of 0 to 42, an rH closest to 0 is the best. In the case of this test series that puts the VS70 as having a better drinking quality of water than the Enagic, but really the Melody, Enagic and VS70 are all exceptional in their drinking water quality. 

You can also see that the low-acid pH is very close between the Enagic and the VS70. The Melody’s low-acid is perfect for beauty water or watering plants, but I don’t know if it would kill germs. The Enagic and VS70 low-acid water would kill germs. The only thing with the Enagic, though, is that to get that low acid, you need to continually supply your ionizer with saline solution. That gets expensive, but then the Enagic is expensive, comparatively, anyway.

Ultimately, the stability of a water ionizer company can be seen in its certifications:

Which Water Ionizer Company has what Certificates? Here’s all the info! [This informatiion is gathered from the water ionizer US main distributors' websites and I have no personal knowledge other than what they claim]

  • KFDA: Korea Food & Drug Administration [GMP standards & authorization to manufacture and sell medical devises]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent
  • Japanese Ministry of Health Authorization to manufacture & sell medical devises: Enagic
  • Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: KTR [Korea Testing & Research Institute] filters tested for results: Jupiter
  • Additional Testing and Validation of Filter Quality: NSF [National Sanitation Foundation International certified the calcium used in filters as in compliance with standards]: Jupiter
  • ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 14001: Jupiter, Ionquench, Tyent, Enagic
  • ISO [International Organization for Standardization] 9001: All
  • CE [European Conformity]: Jupiter, Ionquench, Chanson, Tyent
  • NRTL/CSA [Canada]: KYK

Electrical Safety Certificates: 

  • UL-USA [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter, Tyent
  • UL-Canada [Underwriters Laboratory]: Jupiter

Business Practices — Conformity to Standards:

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Whenever I’ve compared the Venus Water Ionizer with the Melody, KYK, Tyent, etc. it has always tested a bit lower than those other water ionizers in most areas. It is less expensive than the other Jupiter water ionizers, and so one would expect it to test a little lower. It is a pretty good water ionizer though. That’s why today I’m going to take a minute to tell you about the Venus water ionizer and show you some testing videos I’ve done.

The Venus water ionizer is a Jupiter water ionizer, and so has the Jupiter advantage. Here are some of Jupiter Water Ionizers’ superior attributes:

  • Jupiter water ionizers use the Biostone filters. Biostone filters can be purchased for city water [Biostone Plus] or for well water [or people with immune disfunctions] [Biostone .01] .
  • The Jupiter products [including their filters] are thoroughly tested by outside sources and pdf documents are available to show the test results. http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/Biostone-testing.PDF
  • The Jupiter company is the oldest water ionizer company who is still selling water ionizers in the US.
  • The Jupiter water ionizers come with a lifetime parts warranty and 5-year parts/labor warranty.

Here are my testing videos:

 

A little story behind this testing is that a friend of mine in Phoenix bought this water ionizer but couldn’t get the acid water to go below about a 5 pH and the ionized water was a bit cloudy. He was convinced the water ionizer was no good because of this. However, in Phoenix the water is very hard plus it has a high TDS [total dissolved solids]. The combination of the extremely hard water and high TDS was just too much for the Venus and it wasn’t getting good ionization under those circumstances. However here in St. Louis the Venus water ionizer is testing great [as you can see by the videos and charted results below]. The quality of the source water makes a big difference in a water ionizer’s performance. My friend lives in an apartment and with limitations on what he can do and he isn’t in a position to be able to install a scale-block prefilter or reverse osmosis. So he exchanged the Venus for an Orion water ionizer. The Orion is able to get better ionization than the Venus in Phoenix water, so he has decided to keep the Orion. It’s not perfect, though, and the only way to really fix a problem like that so the ionizer works perfectly is to use prefilters and anti-scaling devices or a reverse-osmosis-remineralizer. Unfortunately with differing water qualities around the country some people have to do more and spend more to get their water quality straightened out.

The Jupiter Venus water ionizer isn’t as strong of an ionizer as many of the other water ionizers I sell. It doesn’t get as good ORP per unit of pH as the Melody [....which doesn't get as good as the Orion, Athena, Aquarius, or Delphi water ionizers], but in its own right it is a very good water ionizer and is worth mentioning. Here is the chart, showing the results of the above videos, and the results are not bad at all.

Water Ionizer à

Jupiter Venus

Level 1… pH/ORP

8.5/-148

Level 2… pH/ORP

9.4/-325

Level 3… pH/ORP

10/-695

Level 4… pH/ORP

Level 4 Acid

10.3/-752

2.8

I would say if you can afford to get a better water ionizer I suggest you get a water ionizer in the “best” category [better ORP per unit of pH..such as the Orion, Athena, Aquarius, Tyent and Miracle water ionizers], but in my mind there is a “near best” category [Melody, IonQuench] and a “very good” category [Venus and Eden] which are worthy of consideration especially for young and healthy families on a tight budget who don’t live in areas with very hard water. For my family and me during our first 15 years of drinking ionized water we knew only one ionizer, the old Ange water ionizer, which would test lower in comparison with any of the water ionizers we sell on my site today, and we were just as happy as we could be with it. 

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Fluoride Filtration:

Fluoride is a pale yellow, gaseous element. It is toxic and has been linked with a variety of ailments, including Alzheimer’s and learning disorders. Fluoride is very hard to remove from water because it’s so small. It gets past even the .01M filters. It even gets past RO [reverse osmosis] to some extent [although the slow-flowing action of the water going through the carbon filter of the RO is somewhat effective in removing a good deal of the fluoride]. The best way to remove fluoride, though, is to use activated alumina. Activated alumina is aluminum oxide. Activated, means it’s very porous and will take out much more than it’s weight in the contaminant it’s targeted for, fluoride.  It’s not aluminum, although it is related to aluminum. What activated alumina does is, using its natural attraction of metals, the fluoride is attracted to the alumina and bonds to it. It then becomes a stable compound which is trapped in the filter. The more time the water spends in the highly porous activated alumina filter [i.e., slower water flow] the more fluoride is removed and trapped in the filter. Under 8 liters per min. flow-rate is recommended. A water ionizer usually calls for a 2 liters per min. flow, which is a perfect match for an activated alumina pre filter. Activated Alumina filters will typically remove 99% of fluoride [better than anything else…even better than distillation and RO].

Even without the Activated Alumina as one of their stages, 86% of the Fluoride [by independent laboratory testing...see the following pdf document] is documented to be removed from the water produced by the Melody water ionizer with a regular Biostone filter in it. http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/Biostone-testing.PDF  Not many water ionizer companies up to this point have had this level of extensive lab testing done of their water ionizers’ filter results [or they haven't shared their results], therefore I can’t say which other ionizers filter out Fluoride, but I know from these results that the Jupiter water ionizers filter out about 85% of the Fluoride.

Chlorine and Chloramine Filtration:

Chloramine is a chemical complex formed from ammonia and chlorine. This is being used by many municipalities to disinfect water supplies. Using chloramines reduces the formation of THMs [Trihalo Methanes: which is a byproduct of chlorinating water, and is sometimes linked to causing cancer]

Chloramines are hard to filter out, because they are so stable [as opposed to chlorine, which is unstable and easily filters out]. Distillation won’t remove chloramines, they would just be carried over to the product water. The only reason RO is effective in chloramines removal is because of the slow speed with which the water passes through the carbon filters of the RO system. Lots of contact time is the key to chloramines removal.

The best way to remove chloramines is with a slow flow through an activated carbon filter. Activated carbon is a very porous carbon. Its porosity makes it a good media for chemical removal of anything that is attracted to carbon. Calcium, magnesium and sodium are not attracted to the carbon, and so pass through the filter. GAC [granular activated carbon] has finer granules and more rapidly removes the chloramines than a carbon block filter would. At the speeds of which an ionizer uses to ionize water, a filter or pre-filter containing GAC is a good match for removing the chloramines. An additional GAC filter would be even better than one, because with chloramines a longer exposure to the carbon is required to break the strong bond made by chlorine plus ammonia. GAC filters also remove volatile organic compounds, pesticides, herbicides, trihalomethane compounds, radon, solvents, and other chemicals in the tap water.

Some people have whole house GAC filters and some have only point-of-use filters, which are obviously much cheaper [but then you don't get the chlorine or chloramines out of your bath and shower water]. Most water ionizer filters contain GAC.

KDF

There’s one more filter media worth mentioning, and that’s KDF, or Kinetic Degradation Fluxion. KDF is made with a copper-zinc formulation and uses a chemical process which removes iron, chlorine, mercury, lead, and hydrogen sulfide from the water, It reduce heavy metals, microorganisms, scale, lower total cost, and decrease maintenance of filters and ionizers.

The KDF redox process works by exchanging electrons with contaminants which converts many contaminants into harmless components.

When you’re dealing with lots of toxins in the water and even now pharmaceuticals, it’s good to have a wide variety of filter media. Because of its speed and effectiveness in getting out a large variety of toxins, KDF filter media is a good choice for people who want the cleanest water possible. You would install the KDF filter first [in a series of filters] so that the other filters will remove the compounds made by redox reaction in the KDF filter.

KDF-55 Media Reduces: Arsenic, Lead, Aluminum, Mercury, Cadmium, Chlorine Taste & Odor, Heavy Metal Removal and Bacteria

KDF-85 Media Reduces: Iron and Hydrogen Sulfide KDF-85 also controls scale, bacteria and algae. KDF 85 may be used alone or may be used to protect existing water filtration/purification technologies. Like KDF55 media,

KDF 55 and KDF 85 Process Media remove up to 99% of water-soluble lead, nickel, mercury, chromium, and other dissolved metals. Also, KDF Process Media control the buildup of bacteria, fungi, algae, and scale. They can be used in GAC beds, ion exchange resins, carbon block filters and inline carbon filters. KDF Media eliminate the need for harmful or costly chemical treatments.

KDF filters are often used with an activated carbon filter because they help reduce chlorine build-up which will prolong the life and increase the effectiveness of carbon filters. KDF Filters also supplement the activated carbon filters by removing heavy metals, which carbon-based filters do not remove very effectivel

Product Recommendations:

You can get all three of the above high-quality prefilters in one product [which can be placed in-line with any water ionizer, on the counter, under the sink, on the refrigerator, or mounted to the wall].  Loyal blog readers: If you mention this blog post, I’ll give you a 5% discount on your entire order if you include an H3 or C3 system in your order.

H3 for City Water

H3 Ultimate Filtration for City Water

 or

C3 for City Water

C3 Ultimate Filtration for City Water

References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_alumina
http://www.kdfft.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
http://www.watertechonline.com/article.asp?IndexID=5220514

 

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Water Ionizer News

Here is a just-posted video interview with Dr. Robert Young, author of pH Miracle books and a 30-year water ionizer researcher/guro, with Chanson Water Ionizer USA owner, Ronnie Ruiz.

 

 

Dr. Young used to only endorse the Jupiter water ionizers, mainly the Jupiter Melody. This is because he tested all of the water ionizers and felt that the Jupiter Melody gave you the best “water ionization for your buck”. He liked the way most of the Jupiter models were made [from the Melody water ionizer on up], and he liked their intenal cleaning systems [which are very important].

Dr. Young conducts research on water ionizers and their uses & effectiveness, so that he can help his clients. He does a lot of work with live blood analysis and he puts his clients on alkaline diets. Since he is considered by many to be a top water ionizer guru, his endorsement of a water ionizer is significant.

Now, since Dr. Young has seen and tested the Chanson Miracle water ionizer, he is impressed with this water ionizer’s ability to ionize water well, get an extremely high pH [of about 12 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely low pH [of under 2 with his high-mineral source water], get an extremely high/low ORP [above +1000/below -1000], he is convinced that the Chanson Miracle water ionizer is a MIRACLE WATER IONIZER!

Back in November I did my own testing of the Chanson water ionizers and I was also happily impressed with them. Here is the blog post and video series of that testing: http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/2009/11/17/chanson-water-ionizers-vs-the-melody-water-ionizer/

A week ago Ronnie went to visit the Chanson factory in Taiwan. Here’s the video:

 

What really impressed Ronnie at the factory was they test every single feature of every single chanson water ionizer before it leaves the factory! They even test the pH and ORP to make sure that each water is performing at the exact level that it should. Correction Note: Ronnie states in this video that all other, or most or many water ionizer companies put calcium sulphite in their water filters. Actually the only major or popular [in the US] water ionizer filters that I know of with calcium sulphite [which is added as a preservative] in them are: Life water ionizers, Bion-tech, and Enagic water ionizers.

Here’s another video with Ronnie in Taiwan. He’s exploring the many stores in Taiwan where Chanson water ionizers [and other water ionizers] are sold. You can see that Chanson is a main water ionizer leader in Taiwan [where water ionizers are as common as toasters -- it seems]. Fifty percent of people in Japan and 40% of people in Korea have their own water ionizers.

 

Here’s another video Ronnie did, as a presentation of Chanson Water Ionizers at the Navel Expo. I’m including it here, because it’s a great video to watch to learn some basics about ionized water.

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What is the Best Water Ionizer News from 2009?

The Improved Water Ionizer Warranties!

As we get ready to end our year 2009 it’s time to celebrate some of the highlights. Looking back over the year, I think the best change for the water ionizer industry ever is the introduction of “Lifetime Warranties”. What that does is give you, the consumer, the confidence to know that if your water ionizer breaks down prematurely, due to some design flaw or something beyond your control, you are protected! That’s great security!

Here’s a breakdown of the water ionizer companies and their warranty improvements [or not] for the year 2009:

Jupiter Water Ionizers:

Started the year 2009 with 5-year warranties, but now have Lifetime Warrantees! 

The Jupiter Company water ionizers: Athena Water Ionizer, The Delphi, The Melody Water Ionizer, The Orion Water Ionizers, and the Venus Water Ionizer … all now come with Lifetime Warrantees! These are sold by Ion Life [the Melody and Orion] and Ion Ways [the Athena and Delphi], two related companies. Here are the links to the exact warranty cards so you can see for yourselves!

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/IonWays_Warranty_AUG_09.pdf

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/uploaded/WarrantyCardIonLife-aug09.pdf

Chanson Water Ionizers:

Started 2009 with 5-year warranties and now are covered by Lifetime Warranties. Here’s the link for that:

http://www.chansonalkalinewater.com/chanson_ionizer_warranty

Life Water ionizers

Life water ionizers started 2009 with 5-year warranties with an optional 10-year upgrade [and 20-year warranty on their plates], and are now also giving Lifetime Warranties [but only if you follow their reasonable guidelines for water ionizer care]

http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/life-water-ionizers

Tyent water ionizers

Tyent water ionizers started off with 5-year warranties. Tyent’s plates are now warrantied for 20 years, and Tyent gives the customer an option to purchase extended 10-year warranties.

KYK water ionizers

KYK water ionizer warranties haven’t changed, and KYK water ionizers are still covered by 5-Year Warrantees [but their prices have come down].

Enagic Water Ionizers

Enagic warranties haven’t changed, and Enagic [Kangen Water] water ionizers are still covered by 5-year warranties.

In this day and age when all of the water ionizer companies are competing with each other for your business, the consumers benefit. And these new warranties are an example of that.

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This is a fictitious letter, listing everything we’d love to see in a perfect water ionizer. We’d love it if a water ionizer would live up to all of our expectations! We do have some water ionizers which come very close though. Read on to see which and why. 

Dear Water Ionizer Manufacturer:

I am interested in becoming an exclusive USA distributor for a perfect water ionizer. When I say perfect, I mean perfect in every way. Here are my specifications:

A Wish-List for a Perfect Water Ionizer:

We, we will be very meticulous in choosing the right water ionizer to represent. We insist that this water ionizer has the following:

  • is manufactured with UL, ISO and CE standards and we will want proof that your water ionizers are built to the standards we have agreed upon [which the ISO, CE and UL certificates will help to do]. We will visit the factory regularly to make sure the standards are met perfectly.
  • the electrodes are platinum coated titanium plates in which the plates are coated AFTER all cutting is done and the coating is applied and baked to the standards of a sufficient thickness to last a lifetime.
  • the filters must be able to filter out fluoride, chlorine, chloramine, arsenic, lead, and all other common contaminants and be certified as safe filters. We will want certified independent laboratory proof that the filters do this — we will not just take your word for it. We will want to offer a lifetime warranty on these water ionizers and will want assurances that the water ionizer we choose will perform well for this time period. I
  • the water ionizer we choose will have to test well [with a comparible or better pH and ORP to the other water ionizers we sell]. So whether the design has mesh or solid plates or whatever the number and size of plates it has — we insist it tests the best.
  • we insist on is that the water ionizer we choose has an automatic self-cleaning of the electrode plates without stopping the water-flow production [in other words a system similar to the Jupiter models' DARC system].
  • the water ionizer we choose will have to look nice in the kitchen and be a reasonable size [similar to the other water ionizers we sell].
  • this water ionizer will have to have the capability to regulate water flow and turn water on/off via a dial or knob on the water ionizer itself, so that it can be hooked up to the main water line.
  • we’d like to be able to produce 30 gallons [@9.5 pH with a -400 or better ORP] per day of ionized water with this water ionizer
  • it must come with stainless steel diverters that can hook up to a faucet [and have adapters so that the most common faucets are easily adapted to fit the provided adapters. In addition it must have included a fitting that will allow the direct water-pipe connection giving the customer all he/she needs to choose either option for water supply connection.
  • it must come with 1/4 inch food-grade water input hose at least 4' in length to accommodate the easy installation for the customer and we prefer a 1/2 inch grey rubber acid water drain hose, because it rests better on the sink.
  • we would like a suction-cup attachment to the bottom of the acid water hose which keeps the acid water hose out of the way of the dishwater in the sink.
  • this water ionizer must be easy to use and come with an easy to read manual and installation DVD, so there are no questions or confusions about how to set up and operate the water ionizer.
  • the warranty card and other contact information also must be to our specifications and included in the kit.
  • this perfect water ionizer needs to be packed in a box that has Styrofoam fitted to the form of the water ionizer and all of its parts, so as to ensure it will withstand the potentially rough handling of shipping. Also, it should include a pH testing kit.
  • the water ionizer should also include pH & ORP meters which show the actual pH and ORP of the water output. In addition whatever instructions to keep the meters clean and stored properly should be included too. [This option can come separately at an extra price for those who want it]
  • we’d like a calcium insert basket, like the Jupiter water ionizers have, as part of the design of the water ionizer, because some customers living in soft-water areas have been able to use this instead of having to put a remineralizer & housing in their water ionizer input line.
  • we’d like a saline port, like the Enagic has, so customers who want the strongest acid are able to get it.

We will want to sell these at a reasonable price. We want to try to keep the price down around $1500. We want the best though, so we’ll need an engineer working on this who has ingenious capabilities and who has a mind for economy, luxury and excellence all in one design.

We will look forward to your speedy response. In the meantime, we do have several practically perfect water ionizers now, so you should be aware we are very picky.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com

This was a ficticious letter, but we’d welcome a reply from a real manufacturer who could live up to our perfect expectations. Most water ionizer manufacturers wouldn’t and couldn’t live up to these standards. What I was asking for costs a lot of money to do!

First of all, the platinum alone is going for $1350.00 per ounce right now! I’m asking to have the plates at least double-coated with pure platinum!  Manufacturers who cut corners on this [by using platinum alloys] are sprouting up all over. It’s not safe to substitute platinum for a platinum alloy. The platinum alloy may be safe for many years, but will eventually break down and the alloying metals will potentially leach into your water as well as exposing the titanium to your water-flow. The main point I’m making here is…

You just can’t cut corners on the platinum!

Actually, I can afford to be picky in my water ionizer standards, because…

I already offer nearly all of the things on my Wish-List for a Perfect Water Ionizer !

… with the Jupiter Melody and Jupiter Athena water ionizers! Most of my other water ionizers also are close to this good as well. If you read my letter [above] you will see everything that comes standard with the Jupiter Melody and Jupiter Athena water ionizers. 

If you’re considering the purchase of a water ionizer you are making a wise choice!

Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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I spent the morning at the Chanson water ionizer company testing the Chanson Miracle and Chanson VS 70 water ionizers against the Jupiter Melody water ionizer. Here are the videos:

 

 

In this 2nd video [above] you can also see a demo of the G2 Faucet!

 

 

Water Ionizer

 

 

PH

 

 

ORP

 

 

Comment

 

 

Melody Level 3

 

 

9.2

 

 

–440

 

 

Best @ Level 3 [Drinking]

 

 

Melody Level 4

 

 

9.2

 

 

-411

 

 

 

Miracle Level 3

 

 

9.4

 

 

-338

 

 

 

Miracle Level 4

 

 

10.1

 

 

-468

 

 

 

Miracle Low Acid

 

 

3.0

 

 

N/A

 

 

 

VS70 Level 3

 

 

9.3

 

 

-405

 

 

 

VS70 Level 4

 

 

10.4

 

 

-610

 

 

Best @ Level 4

[Strong Alkaline]

 

 

VS70 Low Acid

 

 

 

2.9

 

 

 

 

Best @ Low Acid

Also tested 2.73 with another meter

 

 

 

What are the conclusions? These are all three good water ionizers! I figured they’d all test out great. I already knew from watching Ronnie test the VS 70 that the Chanson acid water was going to test out so low. I’ve never seen the Miracle actually tested before, so this was nice to know that it gets such a great low-acid as well. A 3.0 acid level is fantastic in my eyes…and the other pH tester showed it down to about 2.7 on the VS70! At that low-acid level you could definitely kill germs. According to Nedalee the tests are in and the low-acid water from the Chanson water ionizers are killing staff and e-coli. The next test they’re going to do is for salmonella. 

I was very happy for the experience of going to the Chanson water ionizer company! The Chanson company is new to the US, but they’ve been making water ionizers for a long time in Taiwan. They are state-of-the-art water ionizers and the compact size is quite an advantage if space is an issue for you. These tiny water ionizers have 7 plates in them and the power gets up to 150w [which is as high as it needs to get.]

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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I recorded these videos a week ago when I was getting ready to bring my Melody water ionizer to California with me [to give to one of my sons]. This series is a tribute to this fantastic water ionizer , the Jupiter Melody Water Ionizer, which my family and I have been enjoying for about the past year. I’ve decided to do one last series of comparison tests, because it may be a while before I get to test the Melody against the KYK, Athena and Tyent again. In this series, I’ve tested Level 3 and Level 4 of the Melody vs. Tyent water ionizers; the Melody vs. KYK water ionizers; and the Melody vs. Athena water ionizers. What’s amazing is how well the Melody has done in comparison with these other great water ionizers. The Melody @1495.00 is less expensive than the other three water ionizers AND has a lifetime warranty. It’s also made by one of the oldest & most trusted names in water ionizers…Jupiter! Also, no matter which is your personal choice of water ionizer …for a limited time, if you mention this blog post, I’ll give you $100.00 off your purchase price for a brand new Water Ionizer! Wow! What a bargain! Here are the videos:

 

Melody vs Tyent Water Ionizers 

Water Ionizer   PH   ORP   Comment  
Melody Level 3   10.8   -271    
Melody Level 4 10.9 -225 About Equal 

Too Close to Call  

Tyent Level 3   10.4   -303   A Little Better
Tyent Level 4   10.9   -239   About Equal 

Too Close to Call

 

 

 

Melody vs KYK Water Ionizers 

Water Ionizer

PH

ORP

Comment

Melody Level

10.4

-390

 

Melody Level 4

11

-410

A Little Better

Melody Low Acid 

3.4

 

A Little Better

KYK Level 3

10.0

-428

A Little Better

KYK Level 4

10.0 

-474 

 

KYK Low Acid

4.0 

   

 

Melody vs. Athena Water Ionizers

Water Ionizer  PH    ORP  Comment 
Melody Level 3  9.7    -366    A Little Better 
Melody Level 4  11  -328   
Melody Low Acid  3.1    A Little Better 
Athena Level 3  11  -358   
Athena Level 4  11.1  -360  A Little Better 
Athena Low Acid  3.9     

As you can see [above] the Melody tests right up there with the more expensive water ionizers. I would not hesitate to recommend a Melody water ionizer to anyone looking for a great water ionizer. My personal opinion is that the Melody is better than the Enagic, and if I had the equal option to have and use either one, I’d choose the Melody!

Wishing You Water Wellness!
Sincerely, Cathleen LoGrasso
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http://www.alkalinewaterplus.com
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