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Alkaline Ionized Water Verses the Hydrogen Stick
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Filed Under: Other Products
Jan 21 · by Cathleen LoGrasso
The benefits of the alkaline ionized water is too far superior to the Hydrogen Stick to even compare.
Wishing You Water Wellness!Sincerely,
Cathleen LoGrasso
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Hello,
First let me say that I am not in this business, I am just a consumer that is very interested in the effective use of any and all of this technology.
I have a Jupiter Orion and I also use the Hydrogen Sticks – (2 per 1.5L).
The best situation is to drink and use the water straight from the Orion. However, I drive around in the course of my work and need a portable solution. The sticks help optimize my portable solution. It is useful.
Understandably, a business person wants to promote what they are selling and avoid promoting a competing item that they are not selling.
One other thing I would submit, I have the same or similar meter as shown in the video – (Hanna 98121), and I just think that yours must be out of calibration. (Tap water at pH 10.1!) I am not certain but I have read somewhere that municipal water sources are required by law to be somewhere around neutral (pH 7). Unless, you have source water from one of the many fine natural springs in MO, I must conclude, and many people would intuitively conclude that your meter is not calibrated correctly.
My concern with my alkaline/negative ORP water is primarily the natural movement of the negative ORP towards the positive side. (It’s physics) The sticks prevent this occurance and therefore have beneficial utility.
Let me conclude by encouraging you to terminate this particular marketing campaign – “Don’t buy the Hydrogen Stick” unless, of course, you are only using it to drive uninformed traffic. The market for these products, if they are anything like me, a buyer, don’t remain ignorant very long.
Wayne
Wayne,
Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I’ll address each of your concerns here:
1. Anti-Hydrogen Stick Campaign: Actually I have no campaign against the Hydrogen Stick. I have four things I don’t like about it, but I’ve stated in several places that it does do some good [just not enough]. The 4 things I don’t like are…its cost, the fact that it does so little to change the water [and they claim so much], the fact that they don’t have a satisfaction guarantee, and the fact that they seem to put down water ionizers, which are tried & true and used in hospitals and very well proven to assist in bringing a person’s body into the right pH range and also providing negative ORP (antioxidant) affect as well.
2. My pH and ORP meter. My meter does work fine and the fact that St. Louis water tests at a 10 pH is not that unusual. I called our water company and they verified that the pH range of the water coming to my home (Fenton, Missouri) is 9.6 – 10.1. You can call them if you like: Missouri American Water 1-866-430-0820.
3. I certainly understand the concern you have of your alkaline/negative ORP water changing (towards neutral) over time. That’s exactly what I think it’s good for. The problem is that the Hydrogen Stick people claim to be able to everything the water ionizer does for your water and that claim I have found to be false. It does do something. And if you have the money to spend on it — go for it. My tests have shown that with ionized water, after 5 to 8 hours (a typical work-day) not much reduction of the pH and ORP had occurred anyway, so I don’t see it as being of much use to me. But, I’ve been drinking ionized water for 16 years and I have no health concerns. I also don’t use the highest setting for pH/ORP that my water ionizer has available. My body doesn’t need it. For someone who is ill or otherwise just simply wants to make sure they get every single last benefit, they may want to spend the extra money on the stick. I have no problem with that at all, and agree with you that it’s nice to have for that reason [but not to replace a water ionizer--not even close].
I am interested in knowing what brand of hydrogen stick you used and if, in your opinion, they are all relatively the same.
Also, I would like to know what the cost of your water ionizer is?
Hydrogen Friends. I’m sure they’re all about the same. You can check out the prices by clicking the “store” button, above.
I’ve read your arguments about the benefit of a machine over the stick but all the info I read about the stick talk about the benefits of the hydrogen levels of the water. While the info states that a high ph an neg orp are good it’s not as good as hydrgenated water. Your arguments don’t mention and you don’t test for what the water sticks claim make them more beneficial than the machines. Btw, just FYI, I’m not sold on either solution. I’m still looking for a better comparison.
Actually I do the appropriate tests and calculations. I’ve done them several times, and the Hydrogen stick is not nearly as good as a water ionizer in the following ways: pH, ORP, rH [this is the relative Hydrogen], filtration, microclustering and length of time to ionize. It’s not practicle to ask someone to wait hours while the stick steeps in the water. It’s not cheap either. I would need probably 6 sticks every 6 months…and still wouldn’t be even close to the quality I have with an ionizer. That’s why I don’t carry the H-Stick on my site.
Why would you say you only need 1.5-2 liters per day? I don’t get it. Your body is mostly water, and you should hydrate it better than that.
Okay, thank you for your comment. In what way have you tried ionized water? When you say, “As far as I can see…” what are you doing to see? What is your source of information in other words. I have a huge source of information, both personally and from testimonials of hundreds of people from all over. If the stick is worth it in your opinion, then great. I tested it, tried it and was hugely disappointed. I wouldn’t recommend it, because there is so much better that is available. That’s why I think it’s not worth it. If it were the only product of its kind, then maybe I’d consider promoting it, but it’s not.
Hi again cathleen, can you check the size of the stick you tested?
if its 18mmdia and121mm long, then its only good for a 500ml
bottle.. I saw people selling this type for 79.99$? that is a total
ripoff.. write me at the above email address..let’s alk biz..cheers
I wanted so bad that the sticks would be a great help for me. I don’t believe that they would after reading this. There is a water ionizer machine that has 7 plates. It cost about $4000.00 wow. People can’t do the right thing for their health because the cost of getting better is so high. We don’t have the money to live a healthy life. My question is 7 plates vs 5 plates which is best, does it matter the number of plates that much. And can anyone offer us something that we can afford. God help us!!
All water contains Hydrogen, however by the time the water gets to your tap it has collected many contaminants [some of which the water company filters], had acidic dissinfectants added and have become huge clusters [rather than simple, small ones]. These huge molecule clusters have been stripped of electrons. These large H20 clusters are positively charged, because they are stripped of their free electrons. Because of this, when you drink this water it will rob electrons from your cell walls and damage them, thus the term “free radical damage”. If you take a Hydrogen Stick and place it in water from your tap it will add magnesium [which is the main ingredient of the H-Stick]. This will excite the Calcium to release its bond with the H20 and bond with Magnesium, freeing up an electron in the process [and also reducing the size of the cluster]. You will see a light ionization take place and a slight raise in pH. This takes several minutes or hours to do. Keep in mind, though, that the contaminants that made their way to your tap are still in there.
If you add the H-Stick to reverse osmosis water, you will see a more dramatic change with it. That’s because RO water is so void of minerals that it will suck the magnesium right out of the H-Stick. Magnesium’s bond with water produces a free electron in the process. In doing this [bonding with the water molecules] it actually donates an electron to the water molecules. This accounts for the water, which was stripped of all its free electrons, now having a significant number of extra electrons. Keep in mind, though, that a body needs more calcium than magnesium and it needs other electrolytes, and RO water has been stripped of all calcium, magnesium, potassium, and all other electrolytes [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolyte ] which are vital to health. Adding the H-Stick to RO water is just adding magnesium back into the water, basically, and so you will be missing quite a lot of the other electrolytes [and will not have a balance]. If you drink this kind of water, you will need to add in lots of suppliments in order to maintain good health in the long run. People on sports teams are warned about losing electrolytes if they sweat a whole lot and then don’t re-hydrate with the right kind of water [containing a sufficient electrolyte balance]. Some have even died from overconsumption of water [i.e. after a race or some other strenuous exercise] which was void of a proper electrolyte balance.
How is a Hydrogen Stick different than a water ionizer in all this? First of all, a water ionizer is a lot faster than an H-Stick [it's instant, vs. 20-60 min.] Also, a good water ionizer will filter out most of the contaminants before ionizing, but leave in the good minerals [basically a good electrolyte balance]. Then in the electrolysis chamber it forces the large molecule clusters to split. The minerals that are dissolved in the water are still bonded with their respective H20 molecules, but they will be drawn magnetically to either the alkaline pole or the acidic pole. The acidic minerals go out as waste [or can be collected and used for a variety of useful purposes], while out of the alkaline spout you will get water that has a greater concentration of alkaline minerals [healthy electrolytes: such as calcium, magnesium and potassium]. Keep in mind that the amounts of alkaline minerals are insignificant in the sense of “they do not replace your vitamin requirements for the day or give you an overabundance of one mineral or another, but they are significant in that they will give you plenty of pH buffers as that water makes its way through your body. This helps your body, by giving you the ingredients you need for a proper acid/alkaline balance to be constantly maintained throughout the day. The water, after it’s been ionized, will also contain a much greater abundance of free electrons [to ward-off free-radical damage as the water makes it way through your body].
One final thing, the actual expense of using a water ionizer verses a H-Stick is far less. Let’s just take my family for example. I raised 5 children. I also gave water every week to my mother-in-law. We used the same water ionizer for 15 years [1993-2008], which cost us $1100 back in ‘93. If we all drank an average of 1/2 gallon per day, each [which I know we drank more], we consumed 1460 gallons of water in one year. At $1.00 per gallon we would have more than paid for our water ionizer in the first year, then the other 14 years were free. Compare this to the H-Stick, which must be replaced every 6 months [and is for a single person's consumption vs. a whole family]. If my family members were given H-sticks that would be 16 sticks in the first year. At the rate of $79 per stick, we would have paid enough in one year to have purchased our ionizer. At that rate we would have paid for 15 water ionizers after 15 years. Even if we only paid $20. per stick, we still would have paid for 4 water ionizers in that time…plus we would have been getting lesser quality for all those years.
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Hi Cathleen!
Great stuff on the hydrogen sticks… ONething I like to stress is that you need clean water to use the sticks with, which will probably mean you are ALSO buying bottled water… bottled water is an environmental atrocity!
Why buy a consumable product that needs another consumable product to use it with, when you can own a water ionizer that has a lifetime warranty and costs pennies per gallon for the filtration?
Thanks for a great site!
Gavin